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#1 Ojerizah Sep 05, 2012 1:58:52	Hey guys! Any suggestions for a Hellbreaker character (Fiendish Codex II)? Maybe a Spellthief or a Beguiler/xxx ? Anything you create will be welcome. With or without spells, TWF, range, bows, anything at all! The more optimized, better! Thank you! Hugs!
#2 Omen_of_Peace Sep 05, 2012 8:07:27	Spellthief abilities are too dependent on your Spellthief level, unfortunately. Rogue 2/Fighter 2/Rogue +1 is probably the easiest entry 1 Combat Expertise 3 Undo Resistance 3F Improved Feint 4F TWF (or a ranged feat) But as always, a little ToB can't hurt, so Rogue 2/Fighter 1/Rogue +1/any Martial Adept 1 is good too Beyond that it plays much like a Rogue.
#3 Ojerizah Sep 05, 2012 12:30:47	Thanks man! A Hellbreaker gish is hard to do? Hugs!
#4 Omen_of_Peace Sep 05, 2012 18:10:33	Since it's a 10 level PrC that doesn't advance casting at all, yes, it's hard. A gish is supposed to end up with at least 16 casting levels or so. I hope you realize it's a flavourful but not mechanically great PrC. I don't want to dissuade you: I'm just laying things out clearly.
#5 Ojerizah Sep 06, 2012 0:05:14	Thank you so much man! Unfortunately I saw this class is not strong. But really interesting. Maybe I'm obliged to exchange for something more consistent. And do not worry! Suggestions and criticisms are always welcome! And forgiveness for the bad english! Google Translator... ^^
#6 alsebra Sep 06, 2012 13:35:08	Thank you so much man! Unfortunately I saw this class is not strong. But really interesting. Maybe I'm obliged to exchange for something more consistent. And do not worry! Suggestions and criticisms are always welcome! And forgiveness for the bad english! Google Translator... ^^ Your English is much easier to read than some other posts that have been floating around the boards. The requirements for the PrC are pointing towards Rogue, I think, since any other class that fulfills the sneaky requirement (Lurk, Ninja, Scout, Spellthief) either takes forever to get their second tier of Sneak Attack/Skirmish/Sudden Strike or has to take cross-class skill(s) (but taking Able Learner could help somewhat).  A Binder might work, but you'd have to ask your DM (one of the vestiges grants you SA, but it's only for the day...your DM may decide that that isn't enough to apply for the prestige).
#7 Ojerizah Sep 06, 2012 16:07:58	I'm glad! I'll look carefully to their suggestions. Thank you! Again!