Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 banatine Dec 17, 2009 10:57:24	I'm trying to make my perfect rogue, and i'm finding it really difficult. However, i do have a few things set in stone. 1. the race is Dvati (the 3.5 version though, obviously.) 2. He has to have Master Thrower and Invisible Blade levels. My first idea was Rogue 10/ Invisible Blade 5/ Master Thrower 5, but i also want a bit of shadowdancer (i really want hide in plain sight) and assassin (death attack is gravy, even if the DC will suck) and maybe theif-acrobat (for defensive roll)... but the problem is i don't really want to lose any of master thrower OR invisible blade (well, maybe a bit of invisible blade.) But i'm hopeless at figuring out the right balance between them in order to get as much sneak attack and BAB as possible. Not to mention squeezing the feats in and still having room for TWF (but having 2 flaws helps a little.) So, if anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
#2 gorfnad_the_shiznit Dec 17, 2009 14:37:57	Dvati Rogue - Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Craven, 2x flaws Rogue Rogue - Penetrating Strike ACF (DS) - Two Weapon Fighting Swashbuckler - B: Weapon Finesse Swashbuckler Swashbuckler - Weapon Focus Dagger Fighter - Hit and Run Tactics ACF (DotU) - Improved Two Weapon Fighting Fighter - Far Shot Master Thrower - B: Quick Draw, Darkstalker, Palm Throw Master Thrower Invisible Blade Invisible Blade - Greater Two Weapon Fighting Invisible Blade Invisible Blade Invisible Blade - Rapid Shot Master Thrower - Two With One Blow Master Thrower - B: Snatch Arrows Master Thrower - Improved Precise Shot, Weak Spot Uncanny Trickster or Rogue Uncanny Trickster or Rogue At level 20 - 6d6+20 sneak attack with daggers (a Rogue's Vest from MIC will get you another +1d6 sneak attack), can throw 16 daggers per round, 7 melee attacks per round, BAB 18, improved evasion. If you want Hide in Plain Sight just buy a Collar of Umbral Metamorposis (ToM) instead of trying to make the prereqs for shadowdancer. Death Attack can be nice but you really have to design a build that can increase the DC of the Death Attack and increase the chances of getting, which such builds unfortunately do not include master thrower or invisible blade. And another variation Dvati Rogue - Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Craven, 2x flaws Swash Rogue - Weapon Focus Dagger, Penetrating Strike ACF Rogue Swash Swash - Two Weapon Fighting Fighter - Hit and Run Tactics ACF (DotU) - Improved Two Weapon Fighting Fighter - Combat Reflexes Master Thrower - Far Shot Master Thrower Master Thrower Monk - Cobra Strike ACF - Dodge, Carmendine Monk Monk - Cobra Strike ACF, Spell Reflection ACF (CM) - Mobility Invisible Blade Invisible Blade - Greater Two Weapon Fighting Invisible Blade Invisible Blade Invisible Blade - Rapid Shot Master Thrower Master Thrower At 20th - 5d6+20 sneak attack, Int to AC twice, and pretty much the same stuff as above but this build ends up with slightly better saving throws and potentially better AC.
#3 gorfnad_the_shiznit Dec 18, 2009 0:21:23	Now for an assassin build with Death Attack focus. Dvati Rogue - Dodge, Mobility, Craven, 2x flaws Rogue Rogue - Pentrating Strike ACF (DS), Weapon Finesse Rogue Rogue Assassin - Blindfight Assassin Assassin Assassin - Spring Attack Assassin Assassin Assassin - Darkstalker Assassin Assassin Telfammar Shadowlord - Ability Focus: Death Attack Telfammar Shadowlord Telfammar Shadowlord Telfammar Shadowlord - Shadow Striker, Elusive Target, Fade into Violence or Telling Blow Telfammar Shadowlord Telfammar Shadowlord At level 20 - 8d6+20 sneak attack (a Rogue's Vest from MIC will get you another +1d6 sneak attack), BAB 13, Death Attack DC 17+Int (19 if you use an Assassin's Dagger), evasion, hide in plain sight, and improved uncanny dodge. Not fully sure how shadow pouncing works with Dvati but it would probably be amuzing.