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How does the record diplomacy build work?

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#1
malosasalist
Mar 20, 2009 20:13:37 Eye of Horus (13,200gp) [for item familiar]
+30 diplomacy item (90,000gp)
Pendant of Joy (5,000gp)

Where can you even find these items? The Eye of Horus, for example, I have been searching through many books for, and can't find any mention except for the prestige class Eye of Horus-Ra, which I'm assuming isn't the item in question...

Also, the Pendant of Joy requires a power point. From whence does this come?
#2
Weezel
Mar 20, 2009 21:11:40 Half-Elf Paragon 1 and Human Paragon 2 both grant a bonus feat.

As for the items.. masterwork tool is from the PHB, and the +diplomacy item is custom (using the rules from DMG for prices on item properties). Pendant of Joy is from Races of Eberron. The others I've never heard of before. On a side note a mwk tool is 50gp rather than 500gp as listed ;)

Hope that helps.

Edit Wednesdays Left Eye, Wondrous Item, Dragon 324
#3
malosasalist
Mar 20, 2009 21:22:10
Half-Elf Paragon 1 and Human Paragon 2 both grant a bonus feat.

As for the items.. masterwork tool is from the PHB, and the +diplomacy item is custom (using the rules from DMG for prices on item properties). The others I've never heard of before. On a side note a mwk tool is 50gp rather than 500gp as listed ;)

Hope that helps.

I accounted for the Half-elf paragon 1 and human paragon 2. That's the two bonus feats... this build has 8 feats, so where's the other two come from?

Also, thanks. I was somehow unaware that "Mwk tools" was an abbreviation for "Masterwork tools."
#4
Weezel
Mar 20, 2009 21:28:07
I accounted for the Half-elf paragon 1 and human paragon 2. That's the two bonus feats... this build has 8 feats, so where's the other two come from?

Flaws :D
#5
malosasalist
Mar 20, 2009 21:40:27 What are Flaws?

Unless you mean like, mistakes.
#6
sofawall
Mar 20, 2009 21:44:09 Flaws are from Unearthed Arcana, you take a penalty (-2 on ranged attack rolls, -3 on Reflex Saves etc.) and gain a feat for it.
#7
malosasalist
Mar 20, 2009 22:18:30
Wednesdays Left Eye, Wondrous Item, Dragon 324

Do you know what it does?
#8
malosasalist
Mar 20, 2009 22:26:21 Oh, it's Eyes of Horus, from Dragon 325, pg 75. Anyone know what it does
#9
sofawall
Mar 20, 2009 22:31:21 Grey glass eye with a crack in it.
When carried, receive a +4 bonus on
Diplomacy, Heal, & Survival checks, but
suffer a –4 penalty on Bluff, Intimidate, and
Sleight of Hand checks.

EDIT: Ninja'd... In google, Eyes of Horus gives nothing. Eye of Horus, on the other hand, gives some spells per day. One sec.

EDIT 2:Single lens that is placed over one eye. The
lens is then absorbed into the user’s body
and appears as a tattoo around the user’s
eye.
May only be removed by the will of the user
or by the user’s death.
Detect Evil, at will as a Standard Action.
Protection from Evil (self only), 1/day.
Disguise Self (self only), 1/day.
Misdirection (self only), 1/day.
#10
Weezel
Mar 20, 2009 22:32:56
Do you know what it does?

No idea... just found the reference for it but I don't have that copy of dragon to check in.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpfull there ;)
#11
malosasalist
Mar 20, 2009 22:37:14 sofawall, that's Wednesdays Left Eye, right?

Thanks!
#12
sofawall
Mar 20, 2009 22:48:20 Yeah. I just googled exactly what you had in the quote and it was the first thing to come up.
#13
malosasalist
Mar 21, 2009 14:00:25 How about the "power point" issue?
#14
sofawall
Mar 21, 2009 16:16:28 I do believe he has levels of Psy Warrior...
#15
chibishuffle
Mar 21, 2009 16:17:15 power points come from psionics and you can get power points or rather a power point reserve by taking the wild talent feat found in I think exp psionics handbook
#16
malosasalist
Mar 21, 2009 16:24:43 Oh, thanks.

What class grants the spell Moment of Prescience? I know Contemplative gives the bonus domain but he doesn't explicitly choose Luck.
#17
malosasalist
Mar 21, 2009 16:43:44 Is an invocation a daily thing? Because...

"You can invoke this ability to beguile and bewitch your foes. You gain a +6 bonus on Bluff, Diplomacy, and Intimidate checks for a period of 24 hours."

Why not just do it every time you wake up/the spell runs out?
#18
sofawall
Mar 21, 2009 16:44:36 That's the idea :D
#19
malosasalist
Mar 21, 2009 22:35:15 Also...

You potentially have 326 followers at any given time, all of which are capable of giving you at least a +2 to your bonus, and even higher if they are within 60 feet of you due to Motivate Charisma (which most of them will be), and even higher if they are of a higher level and have a decent charisma score.

That's +652. And then some.

In practice, you could never have that many followers around you, but you could have a few rings of higher level followers at your side, boosting your bonus by I'm sure at least +50.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 malosasalist Mar 20, 2009 20:13:37	Eye of Horus (13,200gp) [for item familiar] +30 diplomacy item (90,000gp) Pendant of Joy (5,000gp) Where can you even find these items? The Eye of Horus, for example, I have been searching through many books for, and can't find any mention except for the prestige class Eye of Horus-Ra, which I'm assuming isn't the item in question... Also, the Pendant of Joy requires a power point. From whence does this come?
#2 Weezel Mar 20, 2009 21:11:40	Half-Elf Paragon 1 and Human Paragon 2 both grant a bonus feat. As for the items.. masterwork tool is from the PHB, and the +diplomacy item is custom (using the rules from DMG for prices on item properties). Pendant of Joy is from Races of Eberron. The others I've never heard of before. On a side note a mwk tool is 50gp rather than 500gp as listed ;) Hope that helps. Edit Wednesdays Left Eye, Wondrous Item, Dragon 324
#3 malosasalist Mar 20, 2009 21:22:10	Half-Elf Paragon 1 and Human Paragon 2 both grant a bonus feat. As for the items.. masterwork tool is from the PHB, and the +diplomacy item is custom (using the rules from DMG for prices on item properties). The others I've never heard of before. On a side note a mwk tool is 50gp rather than 500gp as listed ;) Hope that helps. I accounted for the Half-elf paragon 1 and human paragon 2. That's the two bonus feats... this build has 8 feats, so where's the other two come from? Also, thanks. I was somehow unaware that "Mwk tools" was an abbreviation for "Masterwork tools."
#4 Weezel Mar 20, 2009 21:28:07	I accounted for the Half-elf paragon 1 and human paragon 2. That's the two bonus feats... this build has 8 feats, so where's the other two come from? Flaws :D
#5 malosasalist Mar 20, 2009 21:40:27	What are Flaws? Unless you mean like, mistakes.
#6 sofawall Mar 20, 2009 21:44:09	Flaws are from Unearthed Arcana, you take a penalty (-2 on ranged attack rolls, -3 on Reflex Saves etc.) and gain a feat for it.
#7 malosasalist Mar 20, 2009 22:18:30	Wednesdays Left Eye, Wondrous Item, Dragon 324 Do you know what it does?
#8 malosasalist Mar 20, 2009 22:26:21	Oh, it's Eyes of Horus, from Dragon 325, pg 75. Anyone know what it does
#9 sofawall Mar 20, 2009 22:31:21	Grey glass eye with a crack in it. When carried, receive a +4 bonus on Diplomacy, Heal, & Survival checks, but suffer a –4 penalty on Bluff, Intimidate, and Sleight of Hand checks. EDIT: Ninja'd... In google, Eyes of Horus gives nothing. Eye of Horus, on the other hand, gives some spells per day. One sec. EDIT 2:Single lens that is placed over one eye. The lens is then absorbed into the user’s body and appears as a tattoo around the user’s eye. May only be removed by the will of the user or by the user’s death. Detect Evil, at will as a Standard Action. Protection from Evil (self only), 1/day. Disguise Self (self only), 1/day. Misdirection (self only), 1/day.
#10 Weezel Mar 20, 2009 22:32:56	Do you know what it does? No idea... just found the reference for it but I don't have that copy of dragon to check in. Sorry I couldn't be more helpfull there ;)
#11 malosasalist Mar 20, 2009 22:37:14	sofawall, that's Wednesdays Left Eye, right? Thanks!
#12 sofawall Mar 20, 2009 22:48:20	Yeah. I just googled exactly what you had in the quote and it was the first thing to come up.
#13 malosasalist Mar 21, 2009 14:00:25	How about the "power point" issue?
#14 sofawall Mar 21, 2009 16:16:28	I do believe he has levels of Psy Warrior...
#15 chibishuffle Mar 21, 2009 16:17:15	power points come from psionics and you can get power points or rather a power point reserve by taking the wild talent feat found in I think exp psionics handbook
#16 malosasalist Mar 21, 2009 16:24:43	Oh, thanks. What class grants the spell Moment of Prescience? I know Contemplative gives the bonus domain but he doesn't explicitly choose Luck.
#17 malosasalist Mar 21, 2009 16:43:44	Is an invocation a daily thing? Because... "You can invoke this ability to beguile and bewitch your foes. You gain a +6 bonus on Bluff, Diplomacy, and Intimidate checks for a period of 24 hours." Why not just do it every time you wake up/the spell runs out?
#18 sofawall Mar 21, 2009 16:44:36	That's the idea :D
#19 malosasalist Mar 21, 2009 22:35:15	Also... You potentially have 326 followers at any given time, all of which are capable of giving you at least a +2 to your bonus, and even higher if they are within 60 feet of you due to Motivate Charisma (which most of them will be), and even higher if they are of a higher level and have a decent charisma score. That's +652. And then some. In practice, you could never have that many followers around you, but you could have a few rings of higher level followers at your side, boosting your bonus by I'm sure at least +50.