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How to get Hide in plain sight?

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#1
the_blackstaff
Jan 08, 2009 10:50:39 I know that shadowdancers and very high level rangers get it but after a quick look at most books i have it seems that's about the only way. You guys know of any other effective way to get this class feature? I'm trying to get Hide in plain sight for a melee/roguish build and I guess a 1 lvl dip in shadowdancer is not that big of a deal but I'd like to know if there's any other alternatives i could have overlooked.

Thanks a bunch
#2
jameswilliamogle
Jan 08, 2009 12:45:17 The Shadow Template in Tome of Magic does it for +1 LA along w/ a bunch of other decent abilities.
#3
atomickitkat
Jan 08, 2009 12:47:35 I vaguely remember mid-level Assassins getting it. The rest are templates like Shadow Creature(Lords of Madness), possibly Dark Creatures(Tome of Magic).
#4
winternacht
Jan 08, 2009 13:09:45 Ranger (PHB) Level 17 = natural enviroment
Shadowspy PrC (CC) Level 9 = sunlit area
Shadowdancer PrC (DMG) Level 1 = shadowy area
Dark Creature Template (ToM) LA+1 = shadowy area
Dark Creature Template (ToM) via Magic Item (22k) = shadowy area
Assassin (DMG) Level 8 = some sort of shadow, other than his own

The Shadow Creature Template (LoM) gives "shadowblend", allowing to meld with the shadows.
#5
ithamar
Jan 08, 2009 13:37:03 Scout 14 (Complete Adventurer)
Umbral Disciple 3 (Magic of Incarnum)
Brownie as (Ex) ability
#6
BloodDragon
Jan 08, 2009 14:00:40 Shadow Cloak Knight level 6 (ECL6)

This is a gnome paladin varient. Champ. Valor Web Enchancement.
#7
just_my_2_cents
Jan 08, 2009 15:49:38 9 levels in Dark Lantern (PrC, Five Nations page 69) gives HiPS in any, I repeat, any conditions. That's pretty unique, but 9 levels may be a bit too big of an investment for your tastes.
#8
lormador
Jan 08, 2009 19:24:38 Lurking Terror 3 (Libris Mortis) [You must be undead!]
#9
rebel7284
Jan 08, 2009 19:33:48 Collar of Umbral Metamorphosis 22000 Tome of Magic
#10
NiteCyper
Jan 08, 2009 20:15:27 I've been studying the ways of getting HiPS early, for a while.

I recommend:
Blend into Shadows feat (DotU) + Warlock/Dragonfire Adept dip for Darkness invocation. Hide in Plain Sight as a swift-action. Keep the PEBBLE OF DARKNESS in a pouch at your hip, or swallow the damn thing.
Warforged (Scout) + Incarnate Construct template + Dark template/Shadow/Chameleon/Lolth-Touched/etc. Cheesy.
Hellbreaker 1 (FC2) gives an advanced form of HiPS. High prereqs.
Mantle of Flame/Fellmist Robe soulmelds at first level.
Crusader + Martial Study (Cloak of Deception) for continuous invisibility.
Primordial Giant template (LA +0) + Giant sub-typed race for invisibility at-will as an S-LA.

I heard someone once use a Dancing Shield as a form of cover to hide behind.
Also, max Bluff to 'create a diversion'.
Warlock's Wall of Gloom blocks LoS, Walk Unseen invocation is useful and I'm rambling.
#11
archerpwr
Jan 08, 2009 20:28:54 http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/armor.htm#shieldTower
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatModifiers.htm#cover

Granted, that's with a minimum of a -7 penalty (mithral tower shield), but you take cover behind the tower shield, use the hide skill, and hide yourself (including all of your equipment, which the tower shield happens to be).

Show

No, I'm not serious. The rules do work that way though.
#12
surreal
Jan 08, 2009 20:47:55 Try my "lists of stuff" (link in sig) and look up the HiPS section.
#13
NiteCyper
Jan 09, 2009 21:34:59
The Shadow Template in Tome of Magic does it for +1 LA along w/ a bunch of other decent abilities.

Verily, I was surprised when you said it was '+1'. I wanted to believe it. I checked, both in LoM and MotP, and found them to be LA +1.
Oh well. The Incarnate Contruct template's negative level adjustment still does it.

Edit: Incarnate Construct is a level 9 Transmutation spell with a 5k XP cost and the special requirement of a humanoid heart that has been taken from a corpse less than 8 hours dead. Backstory, minor creation?, flesh to salt, or just keep it out of the game.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 the_blackstaff Jan 08, 2009 10:50:39	I know that shadowdancers and very high level rangers get it but after a quick look at most books i have it seems that's about the only way. You guys know of any other effective way to get this class feature? I'm trying to get Hide in plain sight for a melee/roguish build and I guess a 1 lvl dip in shadowdancer is not that big of a deal but I'd like to know if there's any other alternatives i could have overlooked. Thanks a bunch
#2 jameswilliamogle Jan 08, 2009 12:45:17	The Shadow Template in Tome of Magic does it for +1 LA along w/ a bunch of other decent abilities.
#3 atomickitkat Jan 08, 2009 12:47:35	I vaguely remember mid-level Assassins getting it. The rest are templates like Shadow Creature(Lords of Madness), possibly Dark Creatures(Tome of Magic).
#4 winternacht Jan 08, 2009 13:09:45	Ranger (PHB) Level 17 = natural enviroment Shadowspy PrC (CC) Level 9 = sunlit area Shadowdancer PrC (DMG) Level 1 = shadowy area Dark Creature Template (ToM) LA+1 = shadowy area Dark Creature Template (ToM) via Magic Item (22k) = shadowy area Assassin (DMG) Level 8 = some sort of shadow, other than his own The Shadow Creature Template (LoM) gives "shadowblend", allowing to meld with the shadows.
#5 ithamar Jan 08, 2009 13:37:03	Scout 14 (Complete Adventurer) Umbral Disciple 3 (Magic of Incarnum) Brownie as (Ex) ability
#6 BloodDragon Jan 08, 2009 14:00:40	Shadow Cloak Knight level 6 (ECL6) This is a gnome paladin varient. Champ. Valor Web Enchancement.
#7 just_my_2_cents Jan 08, 2009 15:49:38	9 levels in Dark Lantern (PrC, Five Nations page 69) gives HiPS in any, I repeat, any conditions. That's pretty unique, but 9 levels may be a bit too big of an investment for your tastes.
#8 lormador Jan 08, 2009 19:24:38	Lurking Terror 3 (Libris Mortis) [You must be undead!]
#9 rebel7284 Jan 08, 2009 19:33:48	Collar of Umbral Metamorphosis 22000 Tome of Magic
#10 NiteCyper Jan 08, 2009 20:15:27	I've been studying the ways of getting HiPS early, for a while. I recommend: Blend into Shadows feat (DotU) + Warlock/Dragonfire Adept dip for Darkness invocation. Hide in Plain Sight as a swift-action. Keep the PEBBLE OF DARKNESS in a pouch at your hip, or swallow the damn thing. Warforged (Scout) + Incarnate Construct template + Dark template/Shadow/Chameleon/Lolth-Touched/etc. Cheesy. Hellbreaker 1 (FC2) gives an advanced form of HiPS. High prereqs. Mantle of Flame/Fellmist Robe soulmelds at first level. Crusader + Martial Study (Cloak of Deception) for continuous invisibility. Primordial Giant template (LA +0) + Giant sub-typed race for invisibility at-will as an S-LA. I heard someone once use a Dancing Shield as a form of cover to hide behind. Also, max Bluff to 'create a diversion'. Warlock's Wall of Gloom blocks LoS, Walk Unseen invocation is useful and I'm rambling.
#11 archerpwr Jan 08, 2009 20:28:54	http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/armor.htm#shieldTower http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatModifiers.htm#cover Granted, that's with a minimum of a -7 penalty (mithral tower shield), but you take cover behind the tower shield, use the hide skill, and hide yourself (including all of your equipment, which the tower shield happens to be). Show No, I'm not serious. The rules do work that way though.
#12 surreal Jan 08, 2009 20:47:55	Try my "lists of stuff" (link in sig) and look up the HiPS section.
#13 NiteCyper Jan 09, 2009 21:34:59	The Shadow Template in Tome of Magic does it for +1 LA along w/ a bunch of other decent abilities. Verily, I was surprised when you said it was '+1'. I wanted to believe it. I checked, both in LoM and MotP, and found them to be LA +1. Oh well. The Incarnate Contruct template's negative level adjustment still does it. Edit: Incarnate Construct is a level 9 Transmutation spell with a 5k XP cost and the special requirement of a humanoid heart that has been taken from a corpse less than 8 hours dead. Backstory, minor creation?, flesh to salt, or just keep it out of the game.