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How to make UMD work with a crap cha score

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#1
crazyroundeye
Aug 20, 2010 10:54:57 So, as the title says, i wat to make UMD work with a character with a very low charisma (-3 penalty). Is there a feat that allows me to use, say, anything else? I know about the headband of persuasion/cloak of charisma/masterworked tool (I'm guessing pointy hat) tricks, but anything else would help.
thanks in advance
#2
tr0llman
Aug 21, 2010 4:29:05 The usual fix is a custom magic item that gives a Competence bonus: (Bonus squared)*100 gp, per the DMG. Stacks with the masterwork tool (I usually call it a catalog or reference book). I don't know any tricks to shift it to another stat.
#3
awaken_D_M_golem
Aug 21, 2010 13:24:04 2nd , and get other bonus types for more cheese.

You could dip 1 level in a caster class, then Spellcraft checks on Scrolls.
Closer to prime stat, and less ranks / bonuses necessary.
#4
lormador
Aug 21, 2010 20:31:19
You could always homebrew a feat. Why not? It's not like WotC hasn't published things sillier than that.

Can you cast divine spells? Divine Insight (2nd level) could give a nice boost. Probably enough.
#5
The_Crimson_Dawn
Aug 22, 2010 4:24:38 find something that allows you to take 10 on UMD checks. With all the bonuses you will strive for this will take the randoness out.

Lastly what kind of check do you need to make? As in wands need something like a 15 that is not hard, ut if you are planning to use a staff or such that is a different story.
#6
borg285
Sep 17, 2010 13:13:07 Items like A potion of Guidance of the Avatar might work well as a one-shot. +20 competence bonus, only 300 GP for a 2nd level potion: www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/sb...

#7
malkavon
Sep 19, 2010 19:29:41 There's always the Item Familiar feat (link), specifically the "Invest Skill Points" option. Invest at least 3 skill points per level into the item, and apply the +1 bonus to UMD. You'll wind up with double ranks in UMD, which when combined with a competence item + other bonuses should be more than enough.
#8
bigk1
Sep 20, 2010 19:14:58 Take able learner at lvl 1 as a human or play a chaotic alignment and use the flexible mind feat both will allow you to add umd as an in class skill but flexible mind also will give you an additional +1 to umd on top of that

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 crazyroundeye Aug 20, 2010 10:54:57	So, as the title says, i wat to make UMD work with a character with a very low charisma (-3 penalty). Is there a feat that allows me to use, say, anything else? I know about the headband of persuasion/cloak of charisma/masterworked tool (I'm guessing pointy hat) tricks, but anything else would help. thanks in advance
#2 tr0llman Aug 21, 2010 4:29:05	The usual fix is a custom magic item that gives a Competence bonus: (Bonus squared)*100 gp, per the DMG. Stacks with the masterwork tool (I usually call it a catalog or reference book). I don't know any tricks to shift it to another stat.
#3 awaken_D_M_golem Aug 21, 2010 13:24:04	2nd , and get other bonus types for more cheese. You could dip 1 level in a caster class, then Spellcraft checks on Scrolls. Closer to prime stat, and less ranks / bonuses necessary.
#4 lormador Aug 21, 2010 20:31:19	You could always homebrew a feat. Why not? It's not like WotC hasn't published things sillier than that. Can you cast divine spells? Divine Insight (2nd level) could give a nice boost. Probably enough.
#5 The_Crimson_Dawn Aug 22, 2010 4:24:38	find something that allows you to take 10 on UMD checks. With all the bonuses you will strive for this will take the randoness out. Lastly what kind of check do you need to make? As in wands need something like a 15 that is not hard, ut if you are planning to use a staff or such that is a different story.
#6 borg285 Sep 17, 2010 13:13:07	Items like A potion of Guidance of the Avatar might work well as a one-shot. +20 competence bonus, only 300 GP for a 2nd level potion: www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/sb...
#7 malkavon Sep 19, 2010 19:29:41	There's always the Item Familiar feat (link), specifically the "Invest Skill Points" option. Invest at least 3 skill points per level into the item, and apply the +1 bonus to UMD. You'll wind up with double ranks in UMD, which when combined with a competence item + other bonuses should be more than enough.
#8 bigk1 Sep 20, 2010 19:14:58	Take able learner at lvl 1 as a human or play a chaotic alignment and use the flexible mind feat both will allow you to add umd as an in class skill but flexible mind also will give you an additional +1 to umd on top of that