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#1 Maethorial Sep 16, 2014 15:38:45	I'm about to start DMing a Drunk Dungeon and Dragons campaign for fun, so one of my players decided they wanted their race to be a Bee. Well, it's a silly campaign to start with so if I can make this work for her then that would be awesome. My question is simply what is the best option of turning a creature into a playable race? I know the Awaken spell is viable, but is there anything else?
#2 Tempest_Stormwind Sep 16, 2014 16:19:55	Strictly speaking Awaken won't work, since bees are Vermin, not Animals (see the giant bee entry).   Abeil are bee-creatures in the MM2. However, the 3.5 update manual gives them pretty hefty level adjustments (the vassal, the weakest, is +4 LA).   Several templates can grant player-level intelligence, but most apply only to animals and not vermin. If it's a silly game I wouldn't worry about it and just apply Anthropomorphic (Savage Species) to the giant bee (compare to other CR 1, 3 HD animals to get the adjustments down).   The closest to a "bee" in printed playable races is the dromite (image here, they're on the left), but they lack wings and a true (mechanical) hive mind. They're organized very similarly though.   Finally, you could go all-out and use an entomanthrope (think werewolf, but here it's a were-bee). This is perhaps the most flexible, but it also takes a lot of up-front work. And since you'll probably spend most of your time in hybrid form, be prepared to make lots of half-bee jokes, up to and including naming the character Eric.
#3 Slagger_the_Chuul Sep 16, 2014 22:56:53	Tempest_Stormwind wrote:
#4 Krusk Sep 22, 2014 13:32:35	How crazy do you want to be?   http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1187.0   I'd be suprised if you couldn't convert "The Psionic Sandwhich" build into working for a bee. You could also probably do it as a cleric by finding some cheese to get the psionic stuff needed through items/bound monsters.    ---   Or just use a string of polymorph any object to slowly get closer to a bee. "I'm a person" "I'm a mouse" "I'm a ___?" "I'm a bee".    --------   Me personally? I'd probably just find some stats for a bee, and say the player could have 8's for int and charisma, and whatever the bees wis mod is as a racial modifier.