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#1 ericshinra Apr 08, 2008 22:11:29	Alright, I'm creating an 8th level build for my next game using 32-Point Buy and have to stick with a Human(no templates) as per my DM. I'd like to build something working with a 'savage' concept using Barbarian and Ranger levels and would like to know what everyone thinks of this class combination and what they might recommend for my specific build. Currently I've access to the Players Handbook 1 & 2, Monster Manual, Dungeon Masters Guide, Complete Warrior, Complete Adventurer, Complete Arcane, Dungeonscape and Heroes of Battle. While this is only a point of influence on possible routes I'm making this character with an emphasis on group/team combat tactics. What would you all recommend? I'll give whatever other information you want.
#2 archerpwr Apr 08, 2008 22:58:47	Teamwork= White Raven Savage= Tiger Claw I'd go warblade.
#3 ericshinra Apr 08, 2008 23:10:57	Unfortunately as it turns out my DM wont allow Tome of Battle as of yet. I'll have to wait and see.
#4 ericshinra Apr 08, 2008 23:29:01	Yeah. He says Warblades are all about glory so I can't play one being a 'savage' character. Shucks.
#5 archerpwr Apr 08, 2008 23:33:51	Yeah. He says Warblades are all about glory so I can't play one being a 'savage' character. Shucks. *banghead* Break out the FB then.
#6 ericshinra Apr 08, 2008 23:36:52	*banghead* Break out the FB then. Won't I just end up slaughtering my teammates as a Frenzied Berserker? I wanted to be a team player and I'd like to stick with something primal.
#7 archerpwr Apr 08, 2008 23:43:22	Won't I just end up slaughtering my teammates as a Frenzied Berserker? I wanted to be a team player and I'd like to stick with something primal. Depends. Which is a better way to show flavor is mutable, TPK or ubercharger?
#8 ericshinra Apr 08, 2008 23:44:45	I just mean if my DM sees the Wablade as stuck in it's flavor he'll be hesitant to allow a FB.
#9 archerpwr Apr 08, 2008 23:48:22	I just mean if my DM sees the Wablade as stuck in it's flavor he'll be hesitant to allow a FB. How well do you know this DM? I'm inclined to suggest CoDzilla, but I don't know if it would help or hurt your future gaming.
#10 ericshinra Apr 08, 2008 23:52:12	How well do you know this DM? I'm inclined to suggest CoDzilla, but I don't know if it would help or hurt your future gaming. It would. I'm just looking for an effective, but not gamebreaking build for a savage oriented Barbarian, Ranger or even Wilderness Rogue. I guess I should have included all of this beforehand.
#11 rebel7284 Apr 08, 2008 23:57:13	are races of stone and complete champion accessible by any chance? ranger->stoneblessed->fist of the forst->deepwarden = very wild, 2x con to AC, other fun stuff.
#12 ericshinra Apr 08, 2008 23:59:14	No. Only what I included in the first post and even then there are some restrictions, it seems.
#13 archerpwr Apr 09, 2008 0:07:51	It would. I'm just looking for an effective, but not gamebreaking build for a savage oriented Barbarian, Ranger or even Wilderness Rogue. I guess I should have included all of this beforehand. So, we'll stay away from CoDzilla? I'd do something like this: Human Ranger 1/ Barbarian 2/ Fighter 2/ Horizon Walker 1/ Barbarian+2 H) Power Attack 1) Imp. Bullrush 3) Extra Rage Fighter) Improved Init Fighter) Leap Attack 6) Combat Brute
#14 x-codes Apr 09, 2008 1:27:04	Human Ranger 3/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker 6-7/Barbarian X Feats: 1) Brutal Throw, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot 2) TWF from Ranger. 3) Rapid Shot and Endurance from Ranger. 6) Steadfast Determination 9) Power Attack 12) Power Throw 15) Extra Rage 18) Extra Rage Fight with Longspears and Javelins. Doesn't get much more savage than that.