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I'll take one of everything!

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#1
atsuishoto
Apr 14, 2008 22:30:16 Folks quite often say their Dwarf should just replace his "Items" list with "1 of everything in the PHB", referencing a dwarf's ability to move full speed even with a heavy load, suggesting that this heavy load should be able to include every piece of mundane equipment in the whole of the PHB.

I wonder, how true is that suggestion? Can everything really fit on your average dwarf adventurer's back at a level high enough to be able to afford it?

If not, what items could be pruned off to get weights within reason?
#2
x-codes
Apr 14, 2008 23:11:36 Considering that one of the items in the PHB is a 1000lb water clock (for some reason only known to the publishers of the book), it's highly unlikely.
#3
eldritch_lord
Apr 14, 2008 23:39:27
Considering that one of the items in the PHB is a 1000lb water clock (for some reason only known to the publishers of the book), it's highly unlikely.

Something tells me that's supposed to be a bigger-than-grandfather-clock dining room fixture, like a fountain that happens to tell time, so that sort of makes sense; besides, if a gravity-dependent clock is easily movable, and you lack reliable means of resetting it, it sort of defeats the purpose.
#4
zarzak
Apr 14, 2008 23:56:12
Something tells me that's supposed to be a bigger-than-grandfather-clock dining room fixture, like a fountain that happens to tell time, so that sort of makes sense; besides, if a gravity-dependent clock is easily movable, and you lack reliable means of resetting it, it sort of defeats the purpose.

I think the "(for some reason only known to the publishers of the book)" bit was there because ... why would there be a water clock in the book in the first place. Honestly. Who is going to buy/use that in a D&D game. Normal people didn't even buy/use them in real life (aristocrats and governments had them for the most part).
#5
eldritch_lord
Apr 15, 2008 0:31:43
I think the "(for some reason only known to the publishers of the book)" bit was there because ... why would there be a water clock in the book in the first place. Honestly. Who is going to buy/use that in a D&D game. Normal people didn't even buy/use them in real life (aristocrats and governments had them for the most part).

It's the same reason the Stronghold Builders Guidebook was published--if your PC is filthy rich with enough platinum to bury the Nine Hells, you want something to display this wealth, and a 1000lb water clock is the first step. ;)
#6
vicen_korel
Apr 15, 2008 0:49:07 I got to put one of those on a Tenser's floating disc for my next wizard.

Wizard: "what time is it? Well let me check my floating waterclock!"
#7
captaincurran
Apr 15, 2008 1:55:40 the water clock's actually only 200lbs, it's 1,000gp.
#8
brainpiercing
Apr 15, 2008 3:36:33 If you disregard carrying your own keep on your back, it's certainly possible to carry every item in the game with pure strength. However, balancing them all on your back will be an issue.

Consider this:

Dwarf super-buffed Cleric should get around 100 Strength, maybe a bit more, and be colossal sized. Your pack, hoping you had one, also grows with Giant Size.
You now have about a gazillion tons carrying capacity. Depending on what version of Faulymorph you are using, you could increase it by Shapechanging into a quadruped creature before casting Giant Size. However, at that point I think being a dwarf is rather pointless.

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#1 atsuishoto Apr 14, 2008 22:30:16	Folks quite often say their Dwarf should just replace his "Items" list with "1 of everything in the PHB", referencing a dwarf's ability to move full speed even with a heavy load, suggesting that this heavy load should be able to include every piece of mundane equipment in the whole of the PHB. I wonder, how true is that suggestion? Can everything really fit on your average dwarf adventurer's back at a level high enough to be able to afford it? If not, what items could be pruned off to get weights within reason?
#2 x-codes Apr 14, 2008 23:11:36	Considering that one of the items in the PHB is a 1000lb water clock (for some reason only known to the publishers of the book), it's highly unlikely.
#3 eldritch_lord Apr 14, 2008 23:39:27	Considering that one of the items in the PHB is a 1000lb water clock (for some reason only known to the publishers of the book), it's highly unlikely. Something tells me that's supposed to be a bigger-than-grandfather-clock dining room fixture, like a fountain that happens to tell time, so that sort of makes sense; besides, if a gravity-dependent clock is easily movable, and you lack reliable means of resetting it, it sort of defeats the purpose.
#4 zarzak Apr 14, 2008 23:56:12	Something tells me that's supposed to be a bigger-than-grandfather-clock dining room fixture, like a fountain that happens to tell time, so that sort of makes sense; besides, if a gravity-dependent clock is easily movable, and you lack reliable means of resetting it, it sort of defeats the purpose. I think the "(for some reason only known to the publishers of the book)" bit was there because ... why would there be a water clock in the book in the first place. Honestly. Who is going to buy/use that in a D&D game. Normal people didn't even buy/use them in real life (aristocrats and governments had them for the most part).
#5 eldritch_lord Apr 15, 2008 0:31:43	I think the "(for some reason only known to the publishers of the book)" bit was there because ... why would there be a water clock in the book in the first place. Honestly. Who is going to buy/use that in a D&D game. Normal people didn't even buy/use them in real life (aristocrats and governments had them for the most part). It's the same reason the Stronghold Builders Guidebook was published--if your PC is filthy rich with enough platinum to bury the Nine Hells, you want something to display this wealth, and a 1000lb water clock is the first step. ;)
#6 vicen_korel Apr 15, 2008 0:49:07	I got to put one of those on a Tenser's floating disc for my next wizard. Wizard: "what time is it? Well let me check my floating waterclock!"
#7 captaincurran Apr 15, 2008 1:55:40	the water clock's actually only 200lbs, it's 1,000gp.
#8 brainpiercing Apr 15, 2008 3:36:33	If you disregard carrying your own keep on your back, it's certainly possible to carry every item in the game with pure strength. However, balancing them all on your back will be an issue. Consider this: Dwarf super-buffed Cleric should get around 100 Strength, maybe a bit more, and be colossal sized. Your pack, hoping you had one, also grows with Giant Size. You now have about a gazillion tons carrying capacity. Depending on what version of Faulymorph you are using, you could increase it by Shapechanging into a quadruped creature before casting Giant Size. However, at that point I think being a dwarf is rather pointless.