I want to play a Master Thrower focusing on Battlefield Control.
for this I want to Opt. two things, the Master Thrower ability Trip Shot, and the Boomerang Daze feat from Races of Eberron.
here is what I've got so far.
Strongheart Halfling
Ranger 2/Barbarian 1/Fighter 2/Master Thrower 5/Swordsage 2/??? 8
Feats (2 Flaws)
1. Point Blank Shot
2. Precise Shot
3. Weapon Focus (Talenta Boomerang)
4. Far Shot
5. Wolf Berserker
6. Boomerang Ricochet
7. Boomerang Daze
8. Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
9. Rapid Shot
10. Shadow Blade
Master Thrower tricks:
1)Trip Shot
2)Palm Throw
3)Weak Spot or Two With One Blow
I like weak spot because with it it becomes really easy to hit opponents, at least on the games I usually play, but Two With One Blow + Palm Throw + Boomerang Ricochet lets me hit up to 48 creatures wich doesnt seems to stop being appealing for some reason :D
Now my trip opposed check should be something like +11 right now, I seem to remember there is a triping ability for weapons in some book of forgoten realms that would improve it to +15, any comment on how to improve this?
Now, the DC of the Daze, it is 10+damage dealt, the Talenta Boomerang inflicts a tiny d3 if small, my Dex (due to Shadow Hand) is +5 before Magic Items (aka Tomes and Gloves), pherhaps with Crusader Levels and Aura of Chaos (but then I lose Dex to damage because I need to be on a Shadow Hand Stance so...)
and... well I dunno I'm feeling my Opt-Fu kinda down (or pherhaps it is just me?
) and I'm stuck here, tried to do this to distract myself from some stuff I've got going on right now. If somebody could help me with this I would really apreciate it.Thanks in advance.
Sorry for the title joke :P
As for damage, I believe when Boomerang Daze was first optimized, it relied on Power Throw. Basically, you take advantage of Weak Spot's touch attack by using Power Attack. This ups the damage and ups the save DC.
It'd be quite a powerful combo if you could trip and daze an opponent on one attack. Let me check MIC for any tripping enhancements.
Needs more Warblade + Bloodstorm Blade + Power Attack. Don't bother using a Boomerang, keep the feats and use a Greatsword to power your Boomerang feats with that wonderful weapon enhancement.
Greatsword use a bludgoening weapon and a wand/ally who casts greater mighty wallop.
Orc Shotput works great with flavor.
Orc Shotput is good, but IIRC thrown only, which would mean no Power Attack with Bloodstorm Blade. Any one or two handed Bludgeoning weapon works.
Bloodstorm Blades 2nd lvl ability thunderous throw treats those ranged attack rolls as a melee attack, thus power attack is avaliable once again.
Bloodstorm Blades 2nd lvl ability thunderous throw treats those ranged attack rolls as a melee attack, thus power attack is avaliable once again.
Huh. I thought that only worked when you were using Thunderous Throw with a Melee weapon, but maybe I was missing something. I'll have to check that when I'm not AFB
Apologies if I was mistaken.I love it when people deliberately mis-title threads...
Bad form indeed
and once again tsuyoshikentsu has made me laught beyond the limit allowed on my office.
then I see only one problem with the Bloodstorm Blade suggestion. If I dont use a Talenta Boomerang I wont be able to use Boomerang Daze since it specifically says you need to use it.
I really would like to trip'em and daze my opponents. so I have to ask, If I used any Two-Handed Bludgeoning weapon with the aptitude weapon special ability from ToB would then apply the Boomerang Daze feat?
There was a thread that talked about all the exploits earlier but I can't find it here is a minor thread that list some exploits.
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=863680
On the one hand, its a CustServ response....but on the other hand, it is a CustServ response. Take it for what its worth, Rule0 the rest.
I think there was a CustServ response to the Weapon Aptitude enhancement that satated it only works with feats that require you to pick a weapon, such as Weapon Focus, Weapon Spec, and Weapon Supremacy, (similarly to how a Warblade can refocus those feats to a new weapon every day) and not to feats that require specific weapons or weapon types such as Lightning Maces, Quickstaff, Three Mountains, or your Boomerang feat.
On the one hand, its a CustServ response....but on the other hand, it is a CustServ response. Take it for what its worth, Rule0 the rest.
IIRC the response you're referring to was in relation to the Warblade's weapon switching ability, not the Aptitude weapon bonus.
For the original thread of boomerangicity, google: Radical Taoist "Let's Play Catch". The thread begins pre-ToB, but later on in the thread after ToB came out there were some rough builds with Bloodstorm Blade.
For other Bloodstorm Blade builds, google: "Tome of Battle" Build Compendium. The section under throwing shows a bunch of different strategies in general for combining normally melee-only actions with thrown weapons. It's worth checking out to see the versatility and sheer potential BB has.
Alright, now do your homework and come back with an updated build idea.