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#1 CanineLord Dec 21, 2009 13:46:21	Is there any way to grab the mount class feature without being a paladin?  DM has banned all the non-lawful good paladin variants.  And features "similar" to the special mount won't work because I'm looking to build a supermount type character, and I need a base "as paladin ability" mount to stack levels on top of. Thanks
#2 cru Dec 22, 2009 15:09:12	Is there any way to grab the mount class feature without being a paladin?  DM has banned all the non-lawful good paladin variants.  And features "similar" to the special mount won't work because I'm looking to build a supermount type character, and I need a base "as paladin ability" mount to stack levels on top of. Thanks    Mount or companion or something similar Paladin 5 - special mount Paladin 5, elf substitution level, Races of the Wild - unicorn mount - advances as paladin special mount, see text Blackguard 5, ecl 11 Cavalier 1, ecl 9, Complete Warrior Hafling Outrider 1, ecl 6, Complete Warrior Holy Liberator 6, ecl 11, Complete Divine - unique advancement, see text Healer 8, Miniatures Handbook Knight of the Iron Glacier 1, ecl 7, Frostburn - War Megalocerous only Ashworm Dragoon 1, ecl 6, Sandstorm - Ashworm only, separate advancement or stack with Paladin Aglarondan Griffonrider 1, ecl 8, Forgotten Realms: Unapproachable East, separate advancement or stack with paladin Waverider 1, ecl 6, Savage species - advancement based on character level, not class level Knight of the Flying Hunt 1, ecl 8, Champions of Valor - pegasus only, does not improve with level Moonsea Skysentinel 1, ecl 6, Champions of Valor - dire hawk only, separate advancement Triadic Knight 1, ecl 6, Champions of Valor Knight of the Blue Moon 1, ecl 6, City of Splendors: Waterdeep (FR), also counts levels of wizard/sorcerer for mount levels Bone Knight 2, ecl 6, Eberron: Five Nations - skeletal steed, see text Beloved of Valarian 1, ecl 8, Book of Exalted Deeds, unicorn, does not advance with levels, becomes celestial charger at level 6 Skylord 1, ecl 8, Book of Exalted Deeds, separate advancement, does not stack with others Great Rigt Skyguard 2, ecl 7, Races of Faerun, Hippogriff, separate advancement, see text stacks for paladin special mount Halfling Outrider, ecl 6, Complete Warrior Wild Plains Outrider, ecl 7, Complete Adventurer Cavalier, ecl 9, Complete Warrior Knight of the Iron Glacier, ecl 7, Frostburn - War Megalocerous only Ashworm Dragoon, ecl 6, Sandstorm - Ashworm only, see sidebar on p.67, unclear wording on how levels stack/overlap with Paladin Aglarondan Griffonrider, ecl 8, Forgotten Realms: Unapproachable East Triadic Knight, ecl 6, Champions of Valor Vandalis Beastkeeper, ecl 5, Eberron: Dragonmarked Bone Knight, ecl 6, Eberron: Five Nations special mention Wizard 5 (High One Warrior-Wizard substitution level), Champions of Valor web enhancement, combines mount and familiar Devoted Tracker, feat, Complete Adventurer - stack benefits of animal companion and mount Swift Call, feat, Complete Champion, call mount as a swift action Drow Judicator 5, ecl 12, FR: Underdark, call a spider servant Celestial Mount, feat, Book of Exalted Deeds, mount gains celestial template Sanctified One (Elhonna) 1 or 3 or 5/5, ecl 6, Complete Champion, "nature's mount" see text community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...
#3 deviknyte Dec 23, 2009 2:01:57	Halfling Outrider is really powerful when combined with Devoted Tracker.  Amazing actually.  Your animal companion and special mount become one.  So levels in Halfling Outrider give you a boost in both companion and mount.  Vadalis Beastkeeper let's you increase a class' companions and mounts.  The way it is worded you pick Halfling Outrider.  The two combined act like +14 towards druid/ranger for animal companion (total +17) and +14 towards special mount (total +15).  The hard part is you wanting to be neutral....  Knight of the Blue Moon lets you be any good!  This build below gives you +18 HD, but only focuses on your mount.  Remember Druid and Beastkeeper wands are your friend!  Also think about dropping a few levels of things here and there for something to boost yourself.  Higher level timing with Tome of Battle can give you a really nice boost.  Hope this helps.  Druid 3 Fighter 2 Knight of Blue Moon 1 Halfling Outrider 10 Vadalis Beastkeeper 4 (Pick Halfling Outrider, says pick a class, not animal companion or mount) My buddy and I are going to play a simular version of this one day.  Except he's going to play my mount.  Him playing my dragon mount means that he would have 37 hit dice (+18 for being my companion mount, 20 levels, - 1 for level adjustment with savage species break down) at level 20 if I max myself for his hit dice before his savage species adjustments, which I'm not.