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I want to share a build I made

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#1
jaxtor
May 12, 2010 15:13:03 The concept with this build is being self sufficient. Your not limited by the number of spells you can cast or if some thief steals something your suddenly worse than before. I call it the "Say no to magic" build. His AC could be better for sure but 27 ac for touch isn't to shabby. The feat list has weapon focus unarmed and combat expertise. I was at a loss for what else to take so I just grabbed those two but they are flexible.

I want to take a few more lvls in kensai for the ability to increase my unarmed attacks specials, maybe give my self the defending quality. The goal is to be able to survive.

So what do you think?

Name:So`No
Concept: Just say no to magic kids
Lvl: 10
Race: Strong heart halfling
Class: Monk 2 / Hex blade 3 / Paladin of freedom 3 / Kensai 2
Alignment: Lawful Neutral (my Dm is willing to over look alignment restrictions a little)
Hp: 8+6+2+4+4+10+5+5+8+8 = 60 (+20) = 80

BAB: 8/3
Melee: 17/12 (unarmed 18/13)
FoB: 16/16/11 (unarmed 17/17/12)
Fist damage: 1d8+4 +1d6 (effects, Vampiric heals me = to dmg dealt to living creature +1d6 dmg.) (golden ice on evil creatures hit dc 14 1d6+3 dex/2d6+3dex)
AC: 10+5+2+7+1+1+1 = 27 (+5 if combat expertise is being used another +2 if fighting defensively for 34 AC)

Fort 7+3+2+1+1 = 14 (+3vs spells = 16)
Ref 5+3+2+1+1= 12 (+3vs spells = 14)
Will 10+3+5+1+1= 20 (+3vs spells = 22)

14,15,14,13,15,17

Str: 14
Dex: 15
Con: 14
Int: 13
Wis: 17+1 (+3)= 21
Cha: 15 (+1)= 16

Skills: 53+9 (nymphs kiss)
Concentration: 13+2 = 15
Ride: 5+2 = 7
Diplomacy: 13+3 = 16
balance: 9+2 = 11
climb: 9+2 = 11
Sense motive: 13+5 = 18

Class specials
~Monk
Flurry of Blows
Unarmed strike
Evasion
~Paladin
Aura of good
Detect Evil
Smite Evil 1/day
Lay on hands
Divine grace (gets charisma to saves)
Aura of Resolve (Immune to compulsions. Allies with in 10' gain a +4 saving throw vs these effects)
Divine health: Immune to all diseases including supernatural diseases.
~Hex Blade
Hex blade curse 1/day
Arcane resistance: Add charisma modifier to saves vs spells. Stacks with paladins divine grace.
Mettle
~kensai
Signature weapon +2 enchantment on fists in the form of
Power surge: Dc 15 concentration check for +8 to str rounds = to half class lvl. +5 to dc each additional daily use.
~Vow of poverty
Ac bonus +7, deflection +1, natural armor +1
endure elements
exalted strike +2 (magic,good)
resistance +1
ability score +2
mind shielding (immune to detect thoughts, discern lies, and detect alignment)
damage reduction 5/magic

Feats
Halfling lvl1: Sacred Vow +2 on diplomacy checks
lvl1: Vow of Poverty
Monk lvl1: Stunning fist
bonus exalted feat: Nymphs kiss, +2 on charisma checks, +1 saving throw vs spells or spell like abilities, +1 skill point every lvl from lvl2 on.
Monk lvl2: Deflect Arrows
lvl3: Weapon focus unarmed
bonus exalted feat: Intuitive attack (use wisdom mod instead of str mod for attack bonus)
lvl6: Combat expertise
bonus exalted feat: Touch of golden ice
Bonus exalted feat: knight of the stars once per day i can call upon my eladrin patron deity to grant me a +1 on any roll or check.
lvl9: superior unarmed strike )treat unarmed strikes the same as a 6th lvl monk)

#2
Maat_Mons
May 12, 2010 16:50:54
If you'd consider changing the ability score you focus on:

Fist of the forest (Complete Champion) gives you a bonus to AC equal to your con modifier at 1st level. Deepwarden (Races of Stone) lets you replace your dex bonus to AC with your con bonus to AC. Dragonborn mongrelfolk (Races of the Dragon, Races of Destiny) gives you +6 con, -2 dex, -2 int, -4 cha. Unfortunately, not being a dwarf means you need to take 3 levels of stoneblessed (Races of Stone) to qualify for deepwarden. On the plus side, stoneblessed 3 gives you +2 con.

If you fit that stuff in and switch your con and wis, you should get +12 AC and +70 HP. Steadfast determination (Player's Handbook II) lets you use con instead of wis for will saves, so you wouldn't need to be losing anything there (gaining +4, actually).

In the level adjusted realm, there's afflicted were advanced dire badger (+12 str, +4 dex, +12 con, +2 wis, +7 natural armor, 2 LA, 4 HD), probably on a dragonborn (+2 con, -2 dex, 0 LA, 0 HD) earth dwarf (+2 str, +2 con, -2 dex, -2 cha, 0 LA, 0 HD).
#3
jaxtor
May 13, 2010 2:40:41 That would help my AC considerably however for a 10th lvl build I would lose out on Mettle which is important. I would lose charisma which lowers my saves which are one of the more important points of this build at least in my opinion. Now if there was a way to add my con bonus to all of my saves that would be very interesting.
#4
carnivore
May 14, 2010 10:19:59 why not just make a build that works with the correct alignments and is even better:

Human
Lawful Good
Monk 2/ Paladin 3/ Pious Templar 3/ Kensai 2

advantages:

larger ....
more Skills
Weapon Specialization .... then Weapon Mastery too
legal ... fullfills reqs with no need for DM approval
very Thematic

#5
jaxtor
May 14, 2010 11:26:11 I do like that one actually but I was wanting the immune to compulsion effect from the variant paladin.

Is there a variant monk class that allows say Chaotic for an alignment?

And originaly I did go Pious templar when I first wrote this up but I replaced it with Hex blade because it requires less feats and gives me my charisma to my saves vs spells for a second stacking.

Though I do like weapon spec....
#6
Endarire
May 15, 2010 3:25:15 She may be self-sufficient depending on her build, but when a Hood can one-shot or one-round nearly any foe she can hit, who needs self-sufficiency?
#7
jaxtor
May 15, 2010 11:31:24 :: goes to look at the hood... Comes back :: way to long, don't know a DM that would take the time / waist the time to put that enemy in the game. Most DM's use normal monsters or advanced monsters they tweaked some how. I like an optimized character not broken ones. Besides why play the game if you sit at the table with a stack of magazines and when the DM says something alls you do is drop a d20 and say "Did I roll a 1? No? Ok it died."
#8
necrosnoop110
May 17, 2010 16:31:53
Is there a variant monk class that allows say Chaotic for an alignment?

Chaos Monk (Dragon #355)
#9
cycada
May 17, 2010 19:48:45 I believe that the Ordered Chaos feat from one of the Fiendish Codex books will allow you to be chaotic and still qualify for lawful alignment. I'm not sure if the wording says so or not, so you may have to work with your DM depending on the exact text.

Hope that helps. :\

~Cycada

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#1 jaxtor May 12, 2010 15:13:03	The concept with this build is being self sufficient. Your not limited by the number of spells you can cast or if some thief steals something your suddenly worse than before. I call it the "Say no to magic" build. His AC could be better for sure but 27 ac for touch isn't to shabby. The feat list has weapon focus unarmed and combat expertise. I was at a loss for what else to take so I just grabbed those two but they are flexible. I want to take a few more lvls in kensai for the ability to increase my unarmed attacks specials, maybe give my self the defending quality. The goal is to be able to survive. So what do you think? Name:So`No Concept: Just say no to magic kids Lvl: 10 Race: Strong heart halfling Class: Monk 2 / Hex blade 3 / Paladin of freedom 3 / Kensai 2 Alignment: Lawful Neutral (my Dm is willing to over look alignment restrictions a little) Hp: 8+6+2+4+4+10+5+5+8+8 = 60 (+20) = 80 BAB: 8/3 Melee: 17/12 (unarmed 18/13) FoB: 16/16/11 (unarmed 17/17/12) Fist damage: 1d8+4 +1d6 (effects, Vampiric heals me = to dmg dealt to living creature +1d6 dmg.) (golden ice on evil creatures hit dc 14 1d6+3 dex/2d6+3dex) AC: 10+5+2+7+1+1+1 = 27 (+5 if combat expertise is being used another +2 if fighting defensively for 34 AC) Fort 7+3+2+1+1 = 14 (+3vs spells = 16) Ref 5+3+2+1+1= 12 (+3vs spells = 14) Will 10+3+5+1+1= 20 (+3vs spells = 22) 14,15,14,13,15,17 Str: 14 Dex: 15 Con: 14 Int: 13 Wis: 17+1 (+3)= 21 Cha: 15 (+1)= 16 Skills: 53+9 (nymphs kiss) Concentration: 13+2 = 15 Ride: 5+2 = 7 Diplomacy: 13+3 = 16 balance: 9+2 = 11 climb: 9+2 = 11 Sense motive: 13+5 = 18 Class specials ~Monk Flurry of Blows Unarmed strike Evasion ~Paladin Aura of good Detect Evil Smite Evil 1/day Lay on hands Divine grace (gets charisma to saves) Aura of Resolve (Immune to compulsions. Allies with in 10' gain a +4 saving throw vs these effects) Divine health: Immune to all diseases including supernatural diseases. ~Hex Blade Hex blade curse 1/day Arcane resistance: Add charisma modifier to saves vs spells. Stacks with paladins divine grace. Mettle ~kensai Signature weapon +2 enchantment on fists in the form of Power surge: Dc 15 concentration check for +8 to str rounds = to half class lvl. +5 to dc each additional daily use. ~Vow of poverty Ac bonus +7, deflection +1, natural armor +1 endure elements exalted strike +2 (magic,good) resistance +1 ability score +2 mind shielding (immune to detect thoughts, discern lies, and detect alignment) damage reduction 5/magic Feats Halfling lvl1: Sacred Vow +2 on diplomacy checks lvl1: Vow of Poverty Monk lvl1: Stunning fist bonus exalted feat: Nymphs kiss, +2 on charisma checks, +1 saving throw vs spells or spell like abilities, +1 skill point every lvl from lvl2 on. Monk lvl2: Deflect Arrows lvl3: Weapon focus unarmed bonus exalted feat: Intuitive attack (use wisdom mod instead of str mod for attack bonus) lvl6: Combat expertise bonus exalted feat: Touch of golden ice Bonus exalted feat: knight of the stars once per day i can call upon my eladrin patron deity to grant me a +1 on any roll or check. lvl9: superior unarmed strike )treat unarmed strikes the same as a 6th lvl monk)
#2 Maat_Mons May 12, 2010 16:50:54	If you'd consider changing the ability score you focus on: Fist of the forest (Complete Champion) gives you a bonus to AC equal to your con modifier at 1st level. Deepwarden (Races of Stone) lets you replace your dex bonus to AC with your con bonus to AC. Dragonborn mongrelfolk (Races of the Dragon, Races of Destiny) gives you +6 con, -2 dex, -2 int, -4 cha. Unfortunately, not being a dwarf means you need to take 3 levels of stoneblessed (Races of Stone) to qualify for deepwarden. On the plus side, stoneblessed 3 gives you +2 con. If you fit that stuff in and switch your con and wis, you should get +12 AC and +70 HP. Steadfast determination (Player's Handbook II) lets you use con instead of wis for will saves, so you wouldn't need to be losing anything there (gaining +4, actually). In the level adjusted realm, there's afflicted were advanced dire badger (+12 str, +4 dex, +12 con, +2 wis, +7 natural armor, 2 LA, 4 HD), probably on a dragonborn (+2 con, -2 dex, 0 LA, 0 HD) earth dwarf (+2 str, +2 con, -2 dex, -2 cha, 0 LA, 0 HD).
#3 jaxtor May 13, 2010 2:40:41	That would help my AC considerably however for a 10th lvl build I would lose out on Mettle which is important. I would lose charisma which lowers my saves which are one of the more important points of this build at least in my opinion. Now if there was a way to add my con bonus to all of my saves that would be very interesting.
#4 carnivore May 14, 2010 10:19:59	why not just make a build that works with the correct alignments and is even better: Human Lawful Good Monk 2/ Paladin 3/ Pious Templar 3/ Kensai 2 advantages: larger .... more Skills Weapon Specialization .... then Weapon Mastery too legal ... fullfills reqs with no need for DM approval very Thematic
#5 jaxtor May 14, 2010 11:26:11	I do like that one actually but I was wanting the immune to compulsion effect from the variant paladin. Is there a variant monk class that allows say Chaotic for an alignment? And originaly I did go Pious templar when I first wrote this up but I replaced it with Hex blade because it requires less feats and gives me my charisma to my saves vs spells for a second stacking. Though I do like weapon spec....
#6 Endarire May 15, 2010 3:25:15	She may be self-sufficient depending on her build, but when a Hood can one-shot or one-round nearly any foe she can hit, who needs self-sufficiency?
#7 jaxtor May 15, 2010 11:31:24	:: goes to look at the hood... Comes back :: way to long, don't know a DM that would take the time / waist the time to put that enemy in the game. Most DM's use normal monsters or advanced monsters they tweaked some how. I like an optimized character not broken ones. Besides why play the game if you sit at the table with a stack of magazines and when the DM says something alls you do is drop a d20 and say "Did I roll a 1? No? Ok it died."
#8 necrosnoop110 May 17, 2010 16:31:53	Is there a variant monk class that allows say Chaotic for an alignment? Chaos Monk (Dragon #355)
#9 cycada May 17, 2010 19:48:45	I believe that the Ordered Chaos feat from one of the Fiendish Codex books will allow you to be chaotic and still qualify for lawful alignment. I'm not sure if the wording says so or not, so you may have to work with your DM depending on the exact text. Hope that helps. :\ ~Cycada