I used Battle Sorcerer, more HP, armoured casting and also a charisma caster, which synergizes well with turn attempt boosting
Duskblade3/Monk2/Ur-Priest2/SacredFist10/X3
Full Ur casting, 12th level monk abilities (Greater Flurry), Superior UAS increases that to 16th level monk damage. Rebuke Undead to power DMM: Persist for Righteous Might for a size boost.
Its 18/20 BAB, assuming that X3 is full BAB, so you don't really need to persist Divine Power, freeing you up for a different persist spell like Righteous Wrath of the Faithful (extra attack per round and mad bonuses).
Also, you can still punch people with Harm.
Sacreligious Fist?
Duskblade3/Monk2/Ur-Priest2/SacredFist10/X3
X3 = Enlightened Fist
I partial to this Ur-Priest build myself:
Hellfire Ur-Lock
Warlock 4/ Binder 1/ Ur-Priest 2/ Eldritch Disciple 2/ Hellfire Warlock 3/ Eldritch Disciple 8
Spellthief CL (with master spellthief) - 10
Bard CL - 10
Wizard CL - 10
Sorceror CL - 10
Beguiler CL - 10
Duskblade CL - 10
Ur Priest CL - 60 (10 + CL of each arcane class, per Ur Priest entry).
Have fun with DMM Persist Miracle for Owl's Insight (+30 Insight bonus to wisdom).
Beyond that, find any other spells which would benefit from high CL, and knock it out.
Spellthief 4 / Savage Bard 2 / Ur Priest 10 / Wizard 1 / Sorceror 1 / Beguiler 1 / Duskblade 1
Spellthief CL (with master spellthief) - 10
Bard CL - 10
Wizard CL - 10
Sorceror CL - 10
Beguiler CL - 10
Duskblade CL - 10
Ur Priest CL - 60 (10 + CL of each arcane class, per Ur Priest entry).
Have fun with DMM Persist Miracle for Owl's Insight (+30 Insight bonus to wisdom).
Beyond that, find any other spells which would benefit from high CL, and knock it out.
Blasphemy with CL 60
Spellthief 4 / Savage Bard 2 / Ur Priest 10 / Wizard 1 / Sorceror 1 / Beguiler 1 / Duskblade 1
Spellthief CL (with master spellthief) - 10
Bard CL - 10
Wizard CL - 10
Sorceror CL - 10
Beguiler CL - 10
Duskblade CL - 10Ur Priest CL - 60 (10 + CL of each arcane class, per Ur Priest entry).
Can you explain? I keep rereading it, and come up with Spellthief CL=4, bard 2, Ur Priest 15, wizard 1, sorcerer 1, beguiler 1, duskblade 1. Much less impressive.
Your spellthief levels stack with all other arcane caster levels for determining your caster level for all arcane spellcasting classes.
Spellthief CL is 1/2 class levels, or 2.
All others are = class level.
Ur Priest is All arcane caster level + ur priest level.
Opened the book and read that feat applies it to
Ur priest says
Complete Divine PG. 70.
to determine the caster level of an ur-priest, add the character's ur-priest levels to one-half of his levels in other spellcasting classes.
Note it does not say 1/2 caster levels in all other classes, but rather levels in other spellcasting classes.
So while you do end up with
- Spellthief CL 10
- Bard CL 10
- Wizard CL 10
- Sorc CL 10
- BEguiler CL 10
- Duskblade CL 10
You still have ur priest CL 15.
bloodmage3
ur-priest2
eldritch disciple 10
flavorful as hell, fun to play, and pretty powerful in the right hands, keep away from DMM as that is for whores **** and characters with it has a tendency to come down with terminal cancer in the campaigns I play in, and bolts of cold iron in the ones I DM.
The biggest letdown of the build is the need for the toughness feat, but there's probably substitutes for that one, somewhere, and you need to die and ress before level 6...
Justifying eldritch disciple is not an obstacle but an oportunity for you to go on a quest to ascend a fallen god( now archdemon or somesuch) to godhood once again, and he can be the same dude that made you a warlock, you can work quite a lot of different angles to make it work^^
and walking around with a character that has worldshaking spells scarred in to his skin is pretty badass too, I keep feeling like castiel from that one episode of supernatural... ;)
Actually, Ur-Priest does add 1/2 caster level from all of those classes. It doesn't say pick a class, it says simply add it to 1/2 the other clases.
Spell thief levels boost all other spellcasting classes, provided they are Arcane, simultaneously.
So, 10 levels of spellthief and 10 levels of sorcerer is a caster level of 20, which converts to 10 when added to Ur-priest of 10.
Using just Sorcerer and Spelltheif and Urpeist:
(10+10)/2+10 = 20
You repeat that down the line, adding 10 for every class, +10 for Urpeist and you come out to a caster level of 60.
Yes, Ur-priest is stupid-broken powerful. I believe you'll find a post on this board that talks about that, actually, mentioning that any DM that allows Ur-Priest into their campaign is either stupid or doesn't know what they're doing.
I literally posted the text from the book... Thats not what it says at all. Yes ur-priest is stupid broken, but thats not why. Its stupid broken because you start as a wizard, can grab a level, and then prestige class into something like mystic theuruge and grab full casting in both cleric and wizard.
Ur priest says it takes levels in those classes. Spellthief says it boosts caster levels. Caster levels are not levels.
Spell thief says add caster levels. Ur priest doesn't care about caster level, only class levels.
Also Ur-Priest is broken because a 2 level dip nets you DMM, then go mystic theurge :P
Ur priest saysComplete Divine PG. 70.
to determine the caster level of an ur-priest, add the character's ur-priest levels to one-half of his levels in other spellcasting classes.Note it does not say 1/2 caster levels in all other classes, but rather levels in other spellcasting classes.
Was going to argue, but I don't know that you have read ur priest. Even though I have posted the section in question. Here it is again. I will also include the spellthief bit, because maybe thats where you are confused.
PG. 79 Complete Scoundrel
Your spellthief and arcane spellcaster levels also stack when determining your caster level for all arcane classes.
Note it doesn't say "They stack for determining class levels, but caster levels.