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#1 destined_infamy Sep 14, 2008 0:48:41	kk, so I'm startin a new char to join a party because my previous one just became an NPC via Weretigers + God of nature's destruction which we accidentally released from an ancient tomb in which Moradin imprisoned him in. Its a core game, with a bit of Eberron thrown into it, but I'm pretty sure no Ferrune. Party: Scout 4, Barb 5(going for War Hulk), Pally 7, and monk 5. Also we have another char (probably cleric) about to join up. Rolls: 18, 18, 16, 15, 14, 11 --yess, epic, hence I'm actually asking other people's ideas on the situation, and their suggestions. Restrictions: the DM doesn't like Tomb of Blood Book of Nine Swords. Thinks its OPed for some reason. I made a dervish that killed a purp worm at char lvl 10 (swashbuckler3,fighter2,dervish5) in one round, with 35 AC (only defensive item was a chain shirt, and I had no xp penalties), so they don't like it when I do that anymore, and I just had a wiz/war weaver, so they want me to try something new. I like to avoid loopholes, and just make hardcore chars instead. I generally avoid xp penalties via using human, but that can be waived if something epic comes up. Then again with decent will saves I can commit suicide & get a druid to Last Breath (raise dead+new body & no lvl loss. Gain physical attributes, keep mental ones [int,wis,cha,things like human's favoued class {any}, etc]). So yeah, if you have anything that will fit said mold, give me a shout, I'll drop by here at least once a day. Its still pretty open, and I've been thnking about bards a lot, but possibly more seeker of the song PrC for the dmg. If anyone knows how to optimize that quickly jotting down the basics & overall effect would be awesome, thanks. And lets see where your wildest dreams take you
#2 divisionbyzer0 Sep 15, 2008 8:15:57	I'd say post a skeleton that shows you've worked out some of the concepts of the character yourself, otherwise folk round here are just going to point you to threads which have already done builds with the seeker of the song. Maybe check out the class handbooks thread. Theres a bard guide, and the PrC guides might have a seeker of the song guide since that is a fairly well liked PrC.
#3 destined_infamy Sep 15, 2008 18:15:13	Well thats just the thing, I'm still looking at lots of possible builds, PrCs, and even what base class to go for. I just remembered about the Fochlucan Lyrist and how they get +10 cl to both diving & arcane spellcasting classes, which is giving me the thought of lvl 9 sorc, lvl 6 bard, & lvl 9 CoD (probably druid based off the speak(Druidic) prereq) spells by early epic levels. I'm just running around a lot, so I don't have much time to put the fastest build for this together. Basically any and all ideas are welcome from someone who wants to just make a random idea and let it play out to see how well it works. One good question is, is there any way to learn Druidic without taking a level in that class? If not it sort of narrows down the possible paths to take to get the PrC. But for a bare minimum thing for people to look at theres either the Bard1/Sorc19 combo that apparently gives +30d6 sonic damage to party members. Posted by Tytalus under the thread "Bards" Other then that maybe bard1/monk2/druid1/Bard2-7/Fochlucan Lyrist9/Sorc or Wiz1/Foch.10, then...not sure where from there. Is there another class that gets two different caster levels up? I know Ultimage Magus does, but isn't that just two arcane classes? Anyways, any and all feedback is appreciated