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#1 sleepyshadow Feb 17, 2012 15:35:53	So I've been mulling over a character build, but I'm not quite sure what to do with it. It's half-formulated at best, and I was hoping I could get some help fleshing out the details. Here is what I have so far: Incarnate 2/Cleric 3/Sapphire Hierarch 10 The only feats I really know I'll be taking are Point Blank, Precise, and Rapid Shot, I'm unsure what to take for my second domain, and I'm at a loss for what to take for the last five levels. I appreciate any help, thanks.
#2 Slagger_the_Chuul Feb 17, 2012 19:10:01	The obvious domain choice would be Incarnum, since its bonus feat gives you the extra point of essentia you need to qualify for Sapphire Hierarch (if you aren't already getting it from your race) and allows you to play around with more incarnum spells.  Beyond that, more cleric is always useful, since better spellcasting will help you to be better at whatever you do. The regular feats for meldshaping are worth considering, like the feats to open additional chakras, improve essentia capacity, or access useful soulmelds from other class lists (Shape Soulmeld, basically). The choices really depend on what you want the character to do, though.
#3 Count_Von_CoC Feb 17, 2012 19:34:40	Zen Archery, since it lets you use your Wis mod instead of Dex for ranged attacks.
#4 sleepyshadow Feb 17, 2012 21:00:48	There's an Incarnum domain? I didn't know that, thank you  For my last 5 levels, I was thinking about four levels of Seeker of the Misty Isle and one level of Contemplative. Extra domains are always nice, and I wouldn't lose any more spell casting levels.
#5 Slagger_the_Chuul Feb 18, 2012 0:57:05	There's an Incarnum domain? I didn't know that, thank you  I didn't know it either until I checked the spells section of MoI in response to your question. But yes, anything that advances your cleric spellcasting is good.
#6 sleepyshadow Feb 18, 2012 15:59:55	Okay, so I've got a full build roughly mapped out: Incarnate 2/Cloistered Cleric 3/Sapphire Hierarch 10/Seeker of the Misty Isle 4/Contemplative 1 Feats: Point Blank Shot, Weapon Focus (Longbow) [War Domain], Incarnum Spell Shaping [Incarnum Domain], Knowledge Devotion [Cloistered Cleric], Precise Shot, Rapid Shot, Bonus Essentia, Divine Soul Touch, Expanded Soulmeld Capacity, Holy Warrior, Improved Initiative [Time Domain] Domains: War, Incarnum, Travel, Time What do you guys think?
#7 The_Fred Feb 22, 2012 18:50:49	Be Chaotic - I think for some reason Chaoitc Incarnates get all the archery/ranged stuff. Zen Archery. Then you can dump Dex (well, I always like at least a 12), bump Wis and still get a great AB.
#8 ElVizard Feb 23, 2012 10:54:34	Why 4 levels in the seeker of the misty isle? Wouldn't 1 be enougth?
#9 sleepyshadow Feb 23, 2012 14:28:21	Why 4 levels in the seeker of the misty isle? Wouldn't 1 be enougth? I don't lose out on any caster levels that way, and I'm really not sure what I would replace those three levels with anyway
#10 draco1119 Feb 23, 2012 15:19:36	More cleric, maybe?
#11 New-Shadow Feb 23, 2012 17:04:12	@The_Fred: As far as both suggestions go: 1) He can't, last I knew you had to be lawful to enter S.H., though he could try getting the DM to adapt the PrC and 2) He has no room for feats, and would have to choose. @SleepyShadow: Most of the classes I would recomend that are full casting (or are close enough for three levels) require feats, class features, and/or domains you don't have.  The best off the top of my head would be Knight of the Raven from Expedition to Castle Ravenloft.  Loses casting at first level and a book-specfic requirement, but you meet everything else for it.  It's mostly an anti-undead PrC, but it gives the Sun Domain at 3rd level, plus full BAB and good Fort & Will saves.  You might like it, though I'll try looking for better classes later.
#12 sleepyshadow Feb 23, 2012 17:10:29	I've used Knight of the Raven before, and it works wonderfully. I can't believe I had forgotten that, thank you  As for more cleric, I was always under the impression that features+spells>spells>features>feats>nothing.
#13 ElVizard Feb 23, 2012 17:55:27	Actually cleric levels give you a feature: Turning undead level. But maybe it's more useful for you the +5 to reduce some skill penalties
#14 sleepyshadow Feb 23, 2012 18:17:37	I'm not planning on abusing DMM with this character, and I can't remember the last time I've actually had to use Turn Undead to, well ... turn undead. I suppose it's just the nature of the campaign though.