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Increasing BAB

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#1
salarion
Apr 10, 2012 6:46:38 Is there a way to increaase your BAB for early entry.

I've found gauntlet of prowess for +1.

Would casting Divine Power or Transformation qualify for an increased BAB when gaining a level. Yes I'm aware that the class would stop become "supressed" when my BAB score drops after the spell ends but I would've leveled at that point and my BAB would be sufficent at some point to allow the class to function.

Mainly the goal is to enter Planar Shepard at level 2 or 3. (I don't conisder Divine Minion to be RAW and therefore I don't plan to use it - however if I'm wrong I'd like to know why)

Anyways the Shapeshifter from Oriental Adventures requires +3 BAB, now that's something I can't bypass with the knowledge I have at the moment and I'm failing to find a way to get around this.

The plan would be Druid1/Shapeshifter 1/Planar Shepard 10/Dwemonkeeper 8 // Conjurer 1/Master Specialist 1/Incantatrix 10/IotSF 7/Archmage 1. In epic finish of Dwemonkeeper and 2 levels of Archmage, after that have no idea tbh.

I'm honestly ready to lose Wild Shape feature but I do want to retain druidical casting.

I realise I'm posting a lot of questions here, but I do so only after I do quite a bit of my own research.

So I'm looking for a way to increase BAB (in general and specificly for this problem as well) for the purpuse of early entry to classes.

Yes it's cheese. I really wouldn't like to see an argument about breaking the game or the DM allowing this being insane. We want this type of a game.
#2
Tempest_Stormwind
Apr 10, 2012 7:25:58 Nothing advances BAB in this way - and I'm positive that the gauntlet wouldn't do that either (unless it's from.Dragon, which frequently published awfully-designed material). Spells for qualification is contentious and only your DM can answer that for you - the default answer is No (otherwise everyone's favorite spell would be Heroics).

Divine Minion.... what don't you get? It IS RAW, in that it's an official rule and works the way it seems. You just need DM permission since it's a template you can't easily apply to yourself.
#3
salarion
Apr 10, 2012 9:45:47 Fast Wild Shape (Su): Thah can wild shape as an 11th-level druid into one of the following animal forms: brown bear, constrictor snake, crocodile, jackal (dog), Large giant scorpion, Medium viper, or Medium giant scorpion. Thah can use this ability at will, can change form as a free action, and can spend time in animal form indefinitely. He prefers to keep his shapechanging abilities secret so that he can use this ability to surprise his enemies in combat. Unlike a druid, Thah can use this ability even if he is wearing metal armor.

From www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/200...

You don't gain Wild Shape as a Class Feature rather it's a supernatural ability granted by a template that mimics the one of a druid.

Imho it's not the same. I mean if it is sure I'll take that. But my main problem is the fact it's not a feature dervied from a class - which is a prerequisite for Planar Shepherd.

#4
Maat_Mons
Apr 10, 2012 12:15:08
A 9th-level bard could use inspire greatness to give you 2 extra HD for determining spell effects. If you could then work out a way to be under the effects of divine power, you could have an attack bonus 2 higher than your level.

The kensai prestige class (Complete Warrior) allows for the transfer of up to 10 points of base attack bonus for an hour each day.

A 10th-level war chanter (Complete Warrior) can give everyone in a group the highest base attack bonus of any member of the group.
#5
salarion
Apr 10, 2012 12:26:17 Maat that should more then suffice I think. Thank you very much

Any other tricks you know of the same variety?

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#1 salarion Apr 10, 2012 6:46:38	Is there a way to increaase your BAB for early entry. I've found gauntlet of prowess for +1. Would casting Divine Power or Transformation qualify for an increased BAB when gaining a level. Yes I'm aware that the class would stop become "supressed" when my BAB score drops after the spell ends but I would've leveled at that point and my BAB would be sufficent at some point to allow the class to function. Mainly the goal is to enter Planar Shepard at level 2 or 3. (I don't conisder Divine Minion to be RAW and therefore I don't plan to use it - however if I'm wrong I'd like to know why) Anyways the Shapeshifter from Oriental Adventures requires +3 BAB, now that's something I can't bypass with the knowledge I have at the moment and I'm failing to find a way to get around this. The plan would be Druid1/Shapeshifter 1/Planar Shepard 10/Dwemonkeeper 8 // Conjurer 1/Master Specialist 1/Incantatrix 10/IotSF 7/Archmage 1. In epic finish of Dwemonkeeper and 2 levels of Archmage, after that have no idea tbh. I'm honestly ready to lose Wild Shape feature but I do want to retain druidical casting. I realise I'm posting a lot of questions here, but I do so only after I do quite a bit of my own research. So I'm looking for a way to increase BAB (in general and specificly for this problem as well) for the purpuse of early entry to classes. Yes it's cheese. I really wouldn't like to see an argument about breaking the game or the DM allowing this being insane. We want this type of a game.
#2 Tempest_Stormwind Apr 10, 2012 7:25:58	Nothing advances BAB in this way - and I'm positive that the gauntlet wouldn't do that either (unless it's from.Dragon, which frequently published awfully-designed material). Spells for qualification is contentious and only your DM can answer that for you - the default answer is No (otherwise everyone's favorite spell would be Heroics). Divine Minion.... what don't you get? It IS RAW, in that it's an official rule and works the way it seems. You just need DM permission since it's a template you can't easily apply to yourself.
#3 salarion Apr 10, 2012 9:45:47	Fast Wild Shape (Su): Thah can wild shape as an 11th-level druid into one of the following animal forms: brown bear, constrictor snake, crocodile, jackal (dog), Large giant scorpion, Medium viper, or Medium giant scorpion. Thah can use this ability at will, can change form as a free action, and can spend time in animal form indefinitely. He prefers to keep his shapechanging abilities secret so that he can use this ability to surprise his enemies in combat. Unlike a druid, Thah can use this ability even if he is wearing metal armor. From www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/200... You don't gain Wild Shape as a Class Feature rather it's a supernatural ability granted by a template that mimics the one of a druid. Imho it's not the same. I mean if it is sure I'll take that. But my main problem is the fact it's not a feature dervied from a class - which is a prerequisite for Planar Shepherd.
#4 Maat_Mons Apr 10, 2012 12:15:08	A 9th-level bard could use inspire greatness to give you 2 extra HD for determining spell effects. If you could then work out a way to be under the effects of divine power, you could have an attack bonus 2 higher than your level. The kensai prestige class (Complete Warrior) allows for the transfer of up to 10 points of base attack bonus for an hour each day. A 10th-level war chanter (Complete Warrior) can give everyone in a group the highest base attack bonus of any member of the group.
#5 salarion Apr 10, 2012 12:26:17	Maat that should more then suffice I think. Thank you very much Any other tricks you know of the same variety?