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#1 sally_jones Apr 14, 2008 21:40:12	my gf and i are watching the last crusade and i was thinking about an good build for him since it would fit with my campaign as a cool npc. 12 lvls, 28 points. keep in mid that he wields luck better than most dwarves wield axes. also he is a very educated man. GO!
#2 archerpwr Apr 14, 2008 21:47:51	Is it Caturday already?
#3 sally_jones Apr 14, 2008 21:51:44	caturday?
#4 archerpwr Apr 14, 2008 22:03:16	caturday? You've got to have a ride before it can be pimped.
#5 sally_jones Apr 14, 2008 22:11:24	elaborate plz
#6 jameswilliamogle Apr 14, 2008 22:11:58	He's only mildly strong, highly proficient w/ the whip, and very knowledgable. Bardic Knack Bard. 12 Str, 14 Dex, 14 Con, 14 Int, 8 Wis, 14 Cha. Done.
#7 salla Apr 14, 2008 22:15:02	elaborate plz He means 'give me something to work with'. It's generally considered poor form to just show up and say 'build me this'. Provide a framework to work with, put a little starting effort into it. That sort of thing. And I vote for Factotum with a splash of Warblade for whiptricks.
#8 darksamuari Apr 14, 2008 22:24:57	This is a guy I made a while back. The alternate class feature as well as the race both reside in Magic of the Incarnum. I hope this may inspire you or be able to give you help in any way. The Relic Hunter Male Riklan 6th-Level Riklan Rogue Size/Type: Medium Humanoid (Reptilian) Hit Dice: 6d6+3 (44 hp) Initiative: +1 Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares), Armor Class: 11 (+0 armor, +1 Dex), touch 11, flat-footed 10 Base Attack/Grapple: +4/+4 Attack: Unarmed Strike +4 melee (1d3+0/20) Attack: Whip +4 melee (1d3+0/20) Attack: Hand Crossbow +5 ranged (1d4/19-20; 30ft.) Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft. Special Attacks: Sneak Attack +3d6 Special Qualities: Racial Knowledge, Racial Aid, Trapfinding, Bardic Knowledge (+12), Resistances: Trap Sense +2, Evasion Saves: Fort +2, Ref +5, Will +2 Abilities: Str 10, Dex 12, Con 16, Int 16, Wis 12, Cha 10 Skills: Bluff +12, Decipher Script +12, Diplomacy +4, Disable Device +12, Escape Artist +10, Intimidate +12, Knowledge (Arcana) +13, Knowledge (History) +15, Knowledge (Religion) +15, Listen +10, Spot +10, Search +12 Skill Tricks: Whip Climber Feats: Education [1st], Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Whip) [3rd], Persuasive [R], Languages: Common, Abyssal, Celestial, Infernal Challenge Rating: 6
#9 sally_jones Apr 14, 2008 22:40:02	ok. sorry for not starting w/ more to go on. i like factotum. bard seems to have too much casting and bardic music doesnt fit at all. as many luck feats as possible as well as skill tricks. so: factotum 9/ uncanny trickster 3 or if fortune's friend spellcasting stacks w/ factotum: factotum 5/ fortune's friend 5/ uncanny trickster 3 (i know that's 13)
#10 wih Apr 14, 2008 23:14:56	Need some way to get Bardic Knowledge. Is it possible to meet the pre-reqs for Loremaster using Factotum?
#11 salla Apr 15, 2008 1:22:58	Need some way to get Bardic Knowledge. Is it possible to meet the pre-reqs for Loremaster using Factotum? Loremaster requires spellcasting, IIRC, and the Factotum doesn't cast spells, just gets some spell-likes. Admittedly, it's been a long time since I saw any of the Indy movies, but I'd think a maxed out KN: History with smatterings of other Knowledges would cover it.
#12 armarant Apr 15, 2008 2:27:55	Oh man, am I gunna be first to say Temple Raider of Olidammara (Complete Divine)? I mean cmon... He infiltrated the Temple of Doom... He finds ancient holy relics... this SCREAMS Indiana Jones. One of my first characters turned into him, though a bit more religiously devout at Cleric11/Temple Raider3/Fortunes Friend1 (granted religious to Olidammara) Just some input, Im not the greatest at optimization.
#13 phaxi Apr 15, 2008 2:39:19	Is it Caturday already?
#14 darksamuari Apr 15, 2008 12:03:30	No! You musn't post cat pics, you are calling he who must not be mentioned! NO!!!!!
#15 salla Apr 15, 2008 22:28:13	No! You musn't post cat pics, you are calling he who must not be mentioned! NO!!!!!
#16 sally_jones Apr 15, 2008 22:43:33	no more cat pics. cats are evil. no temple raider. indie was specifically a non believer. human paragon 3/ bard 1/ rogue 9 hows that sound?
#17 andyjames Apr 15, 2008 23:14:45	I would go with more Bard levels. I mean everytime the theme song comes on, he kicks major rear
#18 mattblacke Apr 16, 2008 0:06:43	Factotum already gives you a nice bonus to any Knowledge check. Just abuse the heck out of the synergies. Besides, with Factotum, you get to add your Int bonus to your Strength bonus for trips, initiative, and all those physical skill checks. If you must dip for Bard, see about the UA Bardic Sage variant for the Int synergy. You'll get a couple of 0 level spells to play with, too.
#19 phaxi Apr 16, 2008 0:07:21	no more cat pics. cats are evil. no temple raider. indie was specifically a non believer. human paragon 3/ bard 1/ rogue 9 hows that sound? mixing bard and rogue is a bad idea (from a charOP point of view).
#20 Senevri Apr 16, 2008 7:21:47	Mmnotreally. Both use the same skill set etc. Their roles overlap and one favors CHA and one INT, but you do need a very specific concept of what you're doing for it to work out. Mainly I'd use Bard, upto 4, to qualify for some caster PrC, I guess. OTOH, some rogues are stealthy, while most bards are... not.
#21 Xeraph Apr 16, 2008 11:46:53	No! You musn't post cat pics, you are calling he who must not be mentioned! NO!!!!! .
#22 darksamuari Apr 16, 2008 12:09:49	NO!!!!