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#1 SkilgannonTheMagnanimous Mar 21, 2015 0:22:57	Hey guys, am I mistaken or is there a feat/class feature that lets you use INT to Grapple, instead of STR? Thanks in advance. Cheers.
#2 Tempest_Stormwind Mar 21, 2015 10:32:42	Why?   It's always good form to provide context, so that our answers don't give you something you can't use.    Without context, all I can do is supply this. The only solution I can think of (it's there, btw) is Factotum 3, but there might be some more convoluted ways to achieve it by daisy-chaining obscure abilities together.
#3 SkilgannonTheMagnanimous Mar 21, 2015 17:45:20	There is no context, another Player and I were discussing Grappling last night, and I thought I remembered an item or feat or ability that added INT to Grapple. I tried googling it, but couldn't come up with anything, so I thought I'd ask here. Thanks for the LINK btw. It is very useful. I found an Item there that adds CHA to Grapple, that may have been what I was thinking of, though I'm sure there was a feat or something called smart wrestler, or somthing like that. Anyway, thanks again. Cheers.
#4 Tempest_Stormwind Mar 21, 2015 18:42:31	SkilgannonTheMagnanimous wrote:
#5 Shevarash May 23, 2015 16:34:02	Tempest_Stormwind wrote:
#6 Luna_Trigger May 23, 2015 20:33:42	Shevarash wrote:
#7 Shevarash May 23, 2015 22:15:34	Luna_Trigger wrote:
#8 Luna_Trigger May 23, 2015 23:14:02	Shevarash wrote:
#9 Slagger_the_Chuul May 23, 2015 23:29:43	Grappling does include Strength as an ability score, but it's definitely more like an attack roll, rather than an ability check, hence its inclusion of the Base Attack Bonus.  Despite using Strength and being called a grapple check, it isn't actually stated to be one (or even similar to one) under the basic rules. It could be argued that it's only said to be "like" an attack roll, though page 60 of the Rules Compendium describes the significant difference a little more closely:   Rules Compendium wrote:
#10 Luna_Trigger May 24, 2015 0:08:37	Slagger_the_Chuul wrote:
#11 Shevarash May 24, 2015 0:10:17	Slagger_the_Chuul wrote:
#12 Luna_Trigger May 24, 2015 0:30:29	Shevarash wrote:
#13 Shevarash May 24, 2015 1:32:04	Luna_Trigger wrote:
#14 Slagger_the_Chuul May 24, 2015 2:00:27	Luna_Trigger wrote:
#15 Luna_Trigger May 24, 2015 10:17:14	Shevarash wrote:
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#17 Slagger_the_Chuul May 24, 2015 23:07:39	Luna_Trigger wrote:
#18 Luna_Trigger May 24, 2015 23:28:02	Shevarash wrote:
#19 Slagger_the_Chuul May 25, 2015 0:14:25	Luna_Trigger wrote:
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#23 Slagger_the_Chuul May 25, 2015 23:42:30	Luna_Trigger wrote:
#24 Luna_Trigger May 26, 2015 10:49:56	Slagger_the_Chuul wrote:
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#27 Slagger_the_Chuul May 27, 2015 2:56:54	Luna_Trigger wrote:
#28 Luna_Trigger May 31, 2015 11:39:22	Slagger_the_Chuul wrote:
#29 Slagger_the_Chuul Jun 01, 2015 4:20:13	Luna_Trigger wrote:
#30 Luna_Trigger Jun 03, 2015 19:21:55	Slagger_the_Chuul wrote:
#31 Slagger_the_Chuul Jun 03, 2015 20:54:05	Luna_Trigger wrote: