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Intellect Druid

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#1
salarion
Apr 02, 2012 16:24:27 Hello,

I'm wondering wether there's a way (feat/variant) with which a druid considers Int as his primary stat instead of Wisdom.

I'm aware of Academic Priest feat from Legends of the Twins but DC isn't keyed from Int then only bonus spells and casting.

Also there's Lost Tradition from Races of Renown - Bastards and Bloodlines page 91. but that's 3rd party (Green Ronin) which does what I want but it's under debate wether or not to allow that book or that feat.

In pathfinder there's a feat that switches DC to Int (I can't recall the name)

So to phrase my question again.

A way to get a Druid to cast based on Int as his primary stat in all regards instead of Wis.

It can be several feats/variants.

We are playing a high-power gestalt campaign.

My character is a Conjurer/Incantatrix/IotSV // Druid/Planar Shepard with Dal Quor.

Yes it's amazingly high cheese but we want to play that kind of a game so I wouldn't like to see an arguement about not needing this.

Thank you in advance,
Salarion
#2
salarion
Apr 03, 2012 14:26:00 No ideas anyone?

This is the fist time ChaOp couldn't provide a soulution

Come on I'm sure there's a way
#3
Maat_Mons
Apr 03, 2012 15:31:32
The only thing I can think of that you haven't mentioned is geomancer (Complete Divine), and I didn't think you'd want to use it.
#4
salarion
Apr 03, 2012 16:09:07 So basicly Academic priest + one level dip into geomancer would achieve what I'm asking That's rather useful
#5
salarion
Apr 03, 2012 16:10:10 Thank you for Geomancer bit.
#6
salarion
Apr 03, 2012 16:24:24 Or would it? Does the ability to set DC for spell has a limit of the Spell Versitility for levels or is it for all spell levels or up to level granted by Spell Versitility feature?

To me it seems as if the Spell Versitility for spell levels is relevent only for avoidng ASF and not for setting DC for spells? Or is this reading wrong?
#7
Slagger_the_Chuul
Apr 03, 2012 19:22:25
Or would it? Does the ability to set DC for spell has a limit of the Spell Versitility for levels or is it for all spell levels or up to level granted by Spell Versitility feature?

To me it seems as if the Spell Versitility for spell levels is relevent only for avoidng ASF and not for setting DC for spells? Or is this reading wrong?

As I understand it, the ability only works for spells less than or equal to the geomancer's spell versatility score. All of the benefits listed are part of spell versatility and subject to that limit (ASF was just the particular example used since it was listed first), so you need to reach your 10th level of geomancer before you can apply spell versatility to 9th-level spells. The wording of spell versatility doesn't make this perfectly clear, though it does mention the "appropriate level" of a spell when talking about spontaneous casting.

Geomancer is one of the things I've played around with a bit for antimagic field builds (along with grafts and the divine crusader).
#8
salarion
Apr 04, 2012 2:53:26 Hmm yes you might be right. On a side note actually a question about the build itself. For the sake of argument let's assume Int is primary stat for the druid.

Would Planar Shepard with Dal Quar or Erudite is a better choice for gestalt? I do realise Dal Quar has some nice economy breaking in itself but I assume it would get rather dull rather fast which is not the goal, however Erudite is a valid choice as well since psions can break the action economy somewhat right?

#9
draco1119
Apr 04, 2012 9:06:31
No ideas anyone?

This is the fist time ChaOp couldn't provide a soulution

Come on I'm sure there's a way

According to the list, there isn't. The Illumians can get Dex or Str as their primary casting stat, but that's the only thing I can think of.

#10
Slagger_the_Chuul
Apr 04, 2012 9:44:02
No ideas anyone?

This is the fist time ChaOp couldn't provide a soulution

Come on I'm sure there's a way

According to the list, there isn't.

It doesn't contain everything, though; it doesn't even mention the geomancer, for a start. While I'll admit that nothing really comes to mind, I can't be sure that there isn't something tucked away in some specific campaign-setting material, since I mainly deal with the setting-independent WotC material.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 salarion Apr 02, 2012 16:24:27	Hello, I'm wondering wether there's a way (feat/variant) with which a druid considers Int as his primary stat instead of Wisdom. I'm aware of Academic Priest feat from Legends of the Twins but DC isn't keyed from Int then only bonus spells and casting. Also there's Lost Tradition from Races of Renown - Bastards and Bloodlines page 91. but that's 3rd party (Green Ronin) which does what I want but it's under debate wether or not to allow that book or that feat. In pathfinder there's a feat that switches DC to Int (I can't recall the name) So to phrase my question again. A way to get a Druid to cast based on Int as his primary stat in all regards instead of Wis. It can be several feats/variants. We are playing a high-power gestalt campaign. My character is a Conjurer/Incantatrix/IotSV // Druid/Planar Shepard with Dal Quor. Yes it's amazingly high cheese but we want to play that kind of a game so I wouldn't like to see an arguement about not needing this. Thank you in advance, Salarion
#2 salarion Apr 03, 2012 14:26:00	No ideas anyone? This is the fist time ChaOp couldn't provide a soulution Come on I'm sure there's a way
#3 Maat_Mons Apr 03, 2012 15:31:32	The only thing I can think of that you haven't mentioned is geomancer (Complete Divine), and I didn't think you'd want to use it.
#4 salarion Apr 03, 2012 16:09:07	So basicly Academic priest + one level dip into geomancer would achieve what I'm asking That's rather useful
#5 salarion Apr 03, 2012 16:10:10	Thank you for Geomancer bit.
#6 salarion Apr 03, 2012 16:24:24	Or would it? Does the ability to set DC for spell has a limit of the Spell Versitility for levels or is it for all spell levels or up to level granted by Spell Versitility feature? To me it seems as if the Spell Versitility for spell levels is relevent only for avoidng ASF and not for setting DC for spells? Or is this reading wrong?
#7 Slagger_the_Chuul Apr 03, 2012 19:22:25	Or would it? Does the ability to set DC for spell has a limit of the Spell Versitility for levels or is it for all spell levels or up to level granted by Spell Versitility feature? To me it seems as if the Spell Versitility for spell levels is relevent only for avoidng ASF and not for setting DC for spells? Or is this reading wrong? As I understand it, the ability only works for spells less than or equal to the geomancer's spell versatility score. All of the benefits listed are part of spell versatility and subject to that limit (ASF was just the particular example used since it was listed first), so you need to reach your 10th level of geomancer before you can apply spell versatility to 9th-level spells. The wording of spell versatility doesn't make this perfectly clear, though it does mention the "appropriate level" of a spell when talking about spontaneous casting. Geomancer is one of the things I've played around with a bit for antimagic field builds (along with grafts and the divine crusader).
#8 salarion Apr 04, 2012 2:53:26	Hmm yes you might be right. On a side note actually a question about the build itself. For the sake of argument let's assume Int is primary stat for the druid. Would Planar Shepard with Dal Quar or Erudite is a better choice for gestalt? I do realise Dal Quar has some nice economy breaking in itself but I assume it would get rather dull rather fast which is not the goal, however Erudite is a valid choice as well since psions can break the action economy somewhat right?
#9 draco1119 Apr 04, 2012 9:06:31	No ideas anyone? This is the fist time ChaOp couldn't provide a soulution Come on I'm sure there's a way According to the list, there isn't. The Illumians can get Dex or Str as their primary casting stat, but that's the only thing I can think of.
#10 Slagger_the_Chuul Apr 04, 2012 9:44:02	No ideas anyone? This is the fist time ChaOp couldn't provide a soulution Come on I'm sure there's a way According to the list, there isn't. It doesn't contain everything, though; it doesn't even mention the geomancer, for a start. While I'll admit that nothing really comes to mind, I can't be sure that there isn't something tucked away in some specific campaign-setting material, since I mainly deal with the setting-independent WotC material.