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#1
madgryphon
May 14, 2008 22:13:55 Short Version: Can you get a specific creature's extraordinary ability for yourself?

Long Version: Can you, specify a creature, specify a certain one of their extraordinary abilities, and through a process of magic, feats, rituals or whatnot retain it as a personal, permanent ability?

If you want further details, just ask, but I'm curious enough from a purely hypothetical stance. Assume any books, wizards published. I ask here, because if anyone can do it, you guys can. Thanks in advance!
#2
bozwevial
May 14, 2008 22:17:12 Isn't this how Pun-Pun was born? Look into the sarrukh.
#3
phaedrusxy
May 14, 2008 22:21:41 Also look at the "Breaking the Core" thread on the Theoretical board.
#4
loganic1
May 14, 2008 22:25:17 I can't say for sure, but I remember LOP needed to be able to gain the Extraodinary abilties of a beholder to be able to take Beholder Mage class.

Look at LoP's Dirty Trick #1
Edit: Phaedix ninjaed me. Pun Pun's trick is based off LoP's original I believe. I don't remember if it included a detailed description of the how.
#5
madgryphon
May 14, 2008 22:33:49
Isn't this how Pun-Pun was born? Look into the sarrukh.

The what? I'm not familiar with what you might be referring to. Is it another thread?

loganic1: His trick works pretty well for supernatural, but the specific ability I'm looking at is extraordinary. Now I'm not sure how much difference it makes, but I'm also looking to retain my original form and race.
#6
bozwevial
May 14, 2008 22:39:12
The what? I'm not familiar with what you might be referring to. Is it another thread?

loganic1: His trick works pretty well for supernatural, but the specific ability I'm looking at is extraordinary. Now I'm not sure how much difference it makes, but I'm also looking to retain my original form and race.

Read and be enlightened, my brother.
#7
22_Over_7
May 14, 2008 22:51:01 A new initiate for the Church of Pun-Pun! All hail His Scaliness!
#8
madgryphon
May 14, 2008 23:02:59 Yarg. Great, good, and wonderful, but is that the only way to do it? I realize that for questions like this Manipulate Form is the Holy Grail, but is it possible any other way? Down that path lies madness, I fear. And beyond hypothetical-ness, I am investigating this for a character intended to be playing in a campaign with a sane DM (Read: wouldn't allow Pun-Pun Shenanigans). If there's not another way, that's alright, but I just wanted to know.

PhaedrusXY: I searched for that thread, but couldn't find it. Link, possibly? Much thanks!
#9
erhnamdj
May 14, 2008 23:26:24
Yarg. Great, good, and wonderful, but is that the only way to do it? I realize that for questions like this Manipulate Form is the Holy Grail, but is it possible any other way? Down that path lies madness, I fear. And beyond hypothetical-ness, I am investigating this for a character intended to be playing in a campaign with a sane DM (Read: wouldn't allow Pun-Pun Shenanigans). If there's not another way, that's alright, but I just wanted to know.

PhaedrusXY: I searched for that thread, but couldn't find it. Link, possibly? Much thanks!

You could use the fusion power with whatever has the ability.
#10
rebel7284
May 14, 2008 23:50:57 planar shepherd
#11
phaedrusxy
May 15, 2008 11:03:52
PhaedrusXY: I searched for that thread, but couldn't find it. Link, possibly? Much thanks!

http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1020620
#12
madgryphon
May 15, 2008 13:20:58
planar shepherd

I'm afraid I don't quite understand how that will help. I looked over the class, but all I saw was wildshape benefits and planar travel related things.

PhaedrusXY: Thanks for the link, I'll look it over, see if I can find anything useful.

Preliminarily, it's looking like there's not going to be an easy or simple way to do this.....

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 madgryphon May 14, 2008 22:13:55	Short Version: Can you get a specific creature's extraordinary ability for yourself? Long Version: Can you, specify a creature, specify a certain one of their extraordinary abilities, and through a process of magic, feats, rituals or whatnot retain it as a personal, permanent ability? If you want further details, just ask, but I'm curious enough from a purely hypothetical stance. Assume any books, wizards published. I ask here, because if anyone can do it, you guys can. Thanks in advance!
#2 bozwevial May 14, 2008 22:17:12	Isn't this how Pun-Pun was born? Look into the sarrukh.
#3 phaedrusxy May 14, 2008 22:21:41	Also look at the "Breaking the Core" thread on the Theoretical board.
#4 loganic1 May 14, 2008 22:25:17	I can't say for sure, but I remember LOP needed to be able to gain the Extraodinary abilties of a beholder to be able to take Beholder Mage class. Look at LoP's Dirty Trick #1 Edit: Phaedix ninjaed me. Pun Pun's trick is based off LoP's original I believe. I don't remember if it included a detailed description of the how.
#5 madgryphon May 14, 2008 22:33:49	Isn't this how Pun-Pun was born? Look into the sarrukh. The what? I'm not familiar with what you might be referring to. Is it another thread? loganic1: His trick works pretty well for supernatural, but the specific ability I'm looking at is extraordinary. Now I'm not sure how much difference it makes, but I'm also looking to retain my original form and race.
#6 bozwevial May 14, 2008 22:39:12	The what? I'm not familiar with what you might be referring to. Is it another thread? loganic1: His trick works pretty well for supernatural, but the specific ability I'm looking at is extraordinary. Now I'm not sure how much difference it makes, but I'm also looking to retain my original form and race. Read and be enlightened, my brother.
#7 22_Over_7 May 14, 2008 22:51:01	A new initiate for the Church of Pun-Pun! All hail His Scaliness!
#8 madgryphon May 14, 2008 23:02:59	Yarg. Great, good, and wonderful, but is that the only way to do it? I realize that for questions like this Manipulate Form is the Holy Grail, but is it possible any other way? Down that path lies madness, I fear. And beyond hypothetical-ness, I am investigating this for a character intended to be playing in a campaign with a sane DM (Read: wouldn't allow Pun-Pun Shenanigans). If there's not another way, that's alright, but I just wanted to know. PhaedrusXY: I searched for that thread, but couldn't find it. Link, possibly? Much thanks!
#9 erhnamdj May 14, 2008 23:26:24	Yarg. Great, good, and wonderful, but is that the only way to do it? I realize that for questions like this Manipulate Form is the Holy Grail, but is it possible any other way? Down that path lies madness, I fear. And beyond hypothetical-ness, I am investigating this for a character intended to be playing in a campaign with a sane DM (Read: wouldn't allow Pun-Pun Shenanigans). If there's not another way, that's alright, but I just wanted to know. PhaedrusXY: I searched for that thread, but couldn't find it. Link, possibly? Much thanks! You could use the fusion power with whatever has the ability.
#10 rebel7284 May 14, 2008 23:50:57	planar shepherd
#11 phaedrusxy May 15, 2008 11:03:52	PhaedrusXY: I searched for that thread, but couldn't find it. Link, possibly? Much thanks! http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1020620
#12 madgryphon May 15, 2008 13:20:58	planar shepherd I'm afraid I don't quite understand how that will help. I looked over the class, but all I saw was wildshape benefits and planar travel related things. PhaedrusXY: Thanks for the link, I'll look it over, see if I can find anything useful. Preliminarily, it's looking like there's not going to be an easy or simple way to do this.....