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#1
nephril
Feb 26, 2011 0:55:36 im trying to figure out the best way to make a jedi for my buddy.

ive got 10 levels to do it. and 30k for gear that i can only spend 10k on any one item. +2 gear is tops so no +3 swords or anything like that.

id like to get him all the jedi stuff i.e.
force push,
lightsabre,
force lightning,
bonuses to jump and tumble,
evasion if possible,
mage hand type ability.
maybe suggestion.

ive looked at warlock with eldritch glaive but the repelling blast is an 11th level invocation.

let me know what you come up with. please dont post homebrew crap or anything that you "loosely" interpret the rules i dont want to research these just to find they dont work.
#2
darth_versity
Feb 26, 2011 3:14:52 Well considering this is the 3rd tenth level build you've demanded in about a week I think it would be more than appropriate to come up with some idea of your own and post them first to show that your actually willing to put in some effort. This is not a forum where you can just help yourself by demanding whatever you want, you have to actually put in some work as well.

p.s. saying you don't want anything with a loose interpretation because you cant be bothered to do research is terrible forum etiquette and just shows how lazy you are truly being
#3
nephril
Feb 27, 2011 20:51:11
Well considering this is the 3rd tenth level build you've demanded in about a week I think it would be more than appropriate to come up with some idea of your own and post them first to show that your actually willing to put in some effort. This is not a forum where you can just help yourself by demanding whatever you want, you have to actually put in some work as well.

p.s. saying you don't want anything with a loose interpretation because you cant be bothered to do research is terrible forum etiquette and just shows how lazy you are truly being

some people really do turn into complete ****es when they get online. i have not demanded anything. everytime i post a request on here i already have my own i have done. i usually try not ot post my first. since then SOME people spend time picking at mine b4 doing there own.

mine came out to be warlcok 9 hellfire warlock 1. i dont get force push or charm until 11th as i used my lesser invocations for flight invisibility and brimstone blast.

i took first least invoaction from dragon magic called eldritch glaive then lesser invocations warding and see the unseen.

played with the psiblade idea but didnt like it.

a melee reach weapon that attacks with reach making all touch attacks doing 5d6 or 7d6 (if i burn one con) is pretty bad ass.
#4
darth_versity
Feb 28, 2011 6:57:24 There now, that wasn't so hard was it?

As for using a Glaivelock build i'd say no as you have to do it as a full round action which means you can't keep the blade active while using another ability. I'd suggest taking Soul Knife to 5 to get shape Mind Blade and use the bastard sword version and then take Sorcerer to get Mage Hand, Gust of Wind, Lesser Orb of Electricity, Charm Person and Jump

Try This

Soul Knife 1-5
Battle Sorcerer 6-8
Abjurant Champion 9-10

Spells

Mage Hand (move light object)
Launch Item
Electric Jolt
Ghost Sound
Resistance

1
Jump (surge)
Charm Person (mind trick)
Lesser orb of electricity (force lightning)

2
Gust of Wind (force push)

If you dont want force lightning then swap it for Shield which works perfect with Abjurant Champion and can be described as you deflecting the attacks away. At that point you may as well swap Electric Jolt for Open/Close as well.

I know the mind blade doesn't get any stronger as you level up, but thats where Mau-Jahe from Weapons of Legacy comes in. It can be used as a mind blade including the ability to shape it. So as long as you perform the required rituals it will become stronger in place of your mind blade.
#5
nephril
Feb 28, 2011 12:55:57 lol i go from not liking you to liking you in no time flat. i looked over the psisorc combo still considering it too i like the abilities it gets but im still looking at repelling blast in one level with lock and telekenisis being a 5th level spell.
#6
darth_versity
Feb 28, 2011 14:25:23
lol i go from not liking you to liking you in no time flat.

I rolled a natural 18 in Charisma, I try to be an arsehole but people seem to like it!

i looked over the psisorc combo still considering it too i like the abilities it gets but im still looking at repelling blast in one level with lock and telekenisis being a 5th level spell.

Well the advantage with that combo is the decent BAB and access to wizard spells, a lot of which can easily duplicate some jedi like abilities. Taking the Militia feat will also provide Martial Weapon Proficency and qualify for Eldritch knight, further providing spells and full BAB

On a side note, have you considered asking your DM to run a Star Wars SAGA edition game? Its one of the best D20 systems ive used, sitting somewhere between 3.5 and 4e and easily mimics the star wars feel of things.
#7
nephril
Feb 28, 2011 15:30:32 we are playing a very long campaign. will be going on for years. players come and go but the game remains the same. he has tailored a whole realm and race system economy and flushed out a complete world. the time hes put into this campaign really leaves him no time for a secondary. im looking for a second campaign to play or try and talk him into playing 2 nights a week. i love to play so 1 night a week is really barely quinching my thirst. 2 nights would be perfect. trying to squeeze mma into my schedule when im doing a 40 hour job and 3 bjj practices 2 judo practices and randori once a week. but i just gotta get my geek on.
#8
nephril
Feb 28, 2011 15:33:00 one thing i loved about the warlock idea is that all of your attacks with that glaive shape invocation are still touch attacks. so that lower bab doesnt really hurt him that bad. ill bring my books out after judo tonight and take a third look at the psiblade class again. another big bonus for this class looking into the future is that in 2 levels hed be able to damage 1 con and add 6d6 damage to all attacks for a whole round. thats 2 attacks on his turn and with combat reflexes up to 5 aos dealing 12d6 each OUCH. also after next level all of his physical attacks will be given the repelling blast ability too so his reach weapon taking aos will be blasting people aroudn too kinda fun.

and making touch attacks when your invisible is almost a guaranteed hit. so hed be able to enter combat invis and get a solid hit in 95% of the time. this also gives us another dump stat str is not longer used. since the glaive invocation is still at reach its a Ranged touch spell so the feats im taking to benefit his blast are also benefitting his blast in weapon form.

keeping his see the unseen up all the time and his fell flight will be really fun he can duplicate the force jumps that you cant do without a big spell all the time. entropic warding will also be a fun defelction type ability he can use during combat.
with the next level giving him one greater invocation then taking the extra invocation feat giving him another lesser well be using charm and repeling blast im loving the flavor though compared to the rest of the toons ive been dumping into this campaign he feels underpowered. but hey sometimes you play for flavors sake. and 1/6 toons being flavor and the rest being uber will be fine.
#9
sleepyshadow
Mar 04, 2011 11:36:30 Not to ask the obvious question here, but have you asked the DM if you could just use the Jedi Guardian class from Star Wars d20?
#10
nephril
Mar 05, 2011 2:00:40 we have a list of reference material almost everything wizards of teh coast 3.5 pathfinder and faerun being this open is already awesome asking for more just doesnt work.

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#1 nephril Feb 26, 2011 0:55:36	im trying to figure out the best way to make a jedi for my buddy. ive got 10 levels to do it. and 30k for gear that i can only spend 10k on any one item. +2 gear is tops so no +3 swords or anything like that. id like to get him all the jedi stuff i.e. force push, lightsabre, force lightning, bonuses to jump and tumble, evasion if possible, mage hand type ability. maybe suggestion. ive looked at warlock with eldritch glaive but the repelling blast is an 11th level invocation. let me know what you come up with. please dont post homebrew crap or anything that you "loosely" interpret the rules i dont want to research these just to find they dont work.
#2 darth_versity Feb 26, 2011 3:14:52	Well considering this is the 3rd tenth level build you've demanded in about a week I think it would be more than appropriate to come up with some idea of your own and post them first to show that your actually willing to put in some effort. This is not a forum where you can just help yourself by demanding whatever you want, you have to actually put in some work as well. p.s. saying you don't want anything with a loose interpretation because you cant be bothered to do research is terrible forum etiquette and just shows how lazy you are truly being
#3 nephril Feb 27, 2011 20:51:11	Well considering this is the 3rd tenth level build you've demanded in about a week I think it would be more than appropriate to come up with some idea of your own and post them first to show that your actually willing to put in some effort. This is not a forum where you can just help yourself by demanding whatever you want, you have to actually put in some work as well. p.s. saying you don't want anything with a loose interpretation because you cant be bothered to do research is terrible forum etiquette and just shows how lazy you are truly being some people really do turn into complete ****es when they get online. i have not demanded anything. everytime i post a request on here i already have my own i have done. i usually try not ot post my first. since then SOME people spend time picking at mine b4 doing there own. mine came out to be warlcok 9 hellfire warlock 1. i dont get force push or charm until 11th as i used my lesser invocations for flight invisibility and brimstone blast. i took first least invoaction from dragon magic called eldritch glaive then lesser invocations warding and see the unseen. played with the psiblade idea but didnt like it. a melee reach weapon that attacks with reach making all touch attacks doing 5d6 or 7d6 (if i burn one con) is pretty bad ass.
#4 darth_versity Feb 28, 2011 6:57:24	There now, that wasn't so hard was it? As for using a Glaivelock build i'd say no as you have to do it as a full round action which means you can't keep the blade active while using another ability. I'd suggest taking Soul Knife to 5 to get shape Mind Blade and use the bastard sword version and then take Sorcerer to get Mage Hand, Gust of Wind, Lesser Orb of Electricity, Charm Person and Jump Try This Soul Knife 1-5 Battle Sorcerer 6-8 Abjurant Champion 9-10 Spells Mage Hand (move light object) Launch Item Electric Jolt Ghost Sound Resistance 1 Jump (surge) Charm Person (mind trick) Lesser orb of electricity (force lightning) 2 Gust of Wind (force push) If you dont want force lightning then swap it for Shield which works perfect with Abjurant Champion and can be described as you deflecting the attacks away. At that point you may as well swap Electric Jolt for Open/Close as well. I know the mind blade doesn't get any stronger as you level up, but thats where Mau-Jahe from Weapons of Legacy comes in. It can be used as a mind blade including the ability to shape it. So as long as you perform the required rituals it will become stronger in place of your mind blade.
#5 nephril Feb 28, 2011 12:55:57	lol i go from not liking you to liking you in no time flat. i looked over the psisorc combo still considering it too i like the abilities it gets but im still looking at repelling blast in one level with lock and telekenisis being a 5th level spell.
#6 darth_versity Feb 28, 2011 14:25:23	lol i go from not liking you to liking you in no time flat. I rolled a natural 18 in Charisma, I try to be an arsehole but people seem to like it! i looked over the psisorc combo still considering it too i like the abilities it gets but im still looking at repelling blast in one level with lock and telekenisis being a 5th level spell. Well the advantage with that combo is the decent BAB and access to wizard spells, a lot of which can easily duplicate some jedi like abilities. Taking the Militia feat will also provide Martial Weapon Proficency and qualify for Eldritch knight, further providing spells and full BAB On a side note, have you considered asking your DM to run a Star Wars SAGA edition game? Its one of the best D20 systems ive used, sitting somewhere between 3.5 and 4e and easily mimics the star wars feel of things.
#7 nephril Feb 28, 2011 15:30:32	we are playing a very long campaign. will be going on for years. players come and go but the game remains the same. he has tailored a whole realm and race system economy and flushed out a complete world. the time hes put into this campaign really leaves him no time for a secondary. im looking for a second campaign to play or try and talk him into playing 2 nights a week. i love to play so 1 night a week is really barely quinching my thirst. 2 nights would be perfect. trying to squeeze mma into my schedule when im doing a 40 hour job and 3 bjj practices 2 judo practices and randori once a week. but i just gotta get my geek on.
#8 nephril Feb 28, 2011 15:33:00	one thing i loved about the warlock idea is that all of your attacks with that glaive shape invocation are still touch attacks. so that lower bab doesnt really hurt him that bad. ill bring my books out after judo tonight and take a third look at the psiblade class again. another big bonus for this class looking into the future is that in 2 levels hed be able to damage 1 con and add 6d6 damage to all attacks for a whole round. thats 2 attacks on his turn and with combat reflexes up to 5 aos dealing 12d6 each OUCH. also after next level all of his physical attacks will be given the repelling blast ability too so his reach weapon taking aos will be blasting people aroudn too kinda fun. and making touch attacks when your invisible is almost a guaranteed hit. so hed be able to enter combat invis and get a solid hit in 95% of the time. this also gives us another dump stat str is not longer used. since the glaive invocation is still at reach its a Ranged touch spell so the feats im taking to benefit his blast are also benefitting his blast in weapon form. keeping his see the unseen up all the time and his fell flight will be really fun he can duplicate the force jumps that you cant do without a big spell all the time. entropic warding will also be a fun defelction type ability he can use during combat. with the next level giving him one greater invocation then taking the extra invocation feat giving him another lesser well be using charm and repeling blast im loving the flavor though compared to the rest of the toons ive been dumping into this campaign he feels underpowered. but hey sometimes you play for flavors sake. and 1/6 toons being flavor and the rest being uber will be fine.
#9 sleepyshadow Mar 04, 2011 11:36:30	Not to ask the obvious question here, but have you asked the DM if you could just use the Jedi Guardian class from Star Wars d20?
#10 nephril Mar 05, 2011 2:00:40	we have a list of reference material almost everything wizards of teh coast 3.5 pathfinder and faerun being this open is already awesome asking for more just doesnt work.