Im looking for a way to do HP damage to the baddies, im playing your traditional god wizard with Evocation, necromancy and enchantment banned. It doesn't have to be massive damage delivered in one round what i want is consistency.
I have considered:
-Crossbow: yuck
-Reserve feats: My main option at this point
-Summoning
-Wands: Second option. Need something cheap i can easily get and maybe even improve with the incantrix metamagic spell trigger and empower/maximise. But i dont whant to go poor.
I can devote 1 maybe 2 feats to dealing damage all my othes are for BC, defense a qualifying.
All the usual books are fare game but nothing to exotic.
I also recommend shivering touch or enervation. Pity you banned necromancy...
*(or a wand, or a staff.)
Summon elemental might not be a bad option. Even though the damage you'll do with the elementals will be be minimal, it's of the best utility feats out there and you won't be married to one element unlike the other reserve feats.
The great thing about summoning is it is terrifically versatile (remember - versatility = power). Generally I like it for flank/block/grapple/trip/eat attacks/backup fly/scouting etc. However, I also use them for damage output as well.
Pick up Augment Summoning to increase the Str of creatures you summon.
Use my Malconvoker Handbook as a guide for what monsters to summon (if you use Summon Monster). However, for a quick list:
1: Celestial Badger
2: Fiendish wolf
3: Celestial Bison
4: Fiendish Dire Wolf
5: Fiendish Huge Crocodile (The ultra-grappler)
6: Fiendish Rhino
My real problem with Orbs? THERE ARE FREAKIN TOO MANY GOOD 4TH LEVEL SPELLS!!!!!!! You can never memorize enough Solid Fogs, or enough Enervations, or enough Dim Doors, or enough Evards, or enough Greater Mirror Images, or enough any of the other billion 4th level spells that are amazing. I've taken to memorizing 4th levels in my 5th level slots. I just love 4th level spells....
This is why I go ahead and take the hit to spell levels and play Sorcerers instead.
My real problem with Orbs? THERE ARE FREAKIN TOO MANY GOOD 4TH LEVEL SPELLS!!!!!!! You can never memorize enough Solid Fogs, or enough Enervations, or enough Dim Doors, or enough Evards, or enough Greater Mirror Images, or enough any of the other billion 4th level spells that are amazing. I've taken to memorizing 4th levels in my 5th level slots. I just love 4th level spells....
This is also why specialist wizards ban schools. Yes, too many 4th level spells you want memorized, but ban a few schools, the list dwindles.
This is also why specialist wizards ban schools. Yes, too many 4th level spells you want memorized, but ban a few schools, the list dwindles.
The problem is that Evard's black tentacles, all the orbs, SM IV, solid fog, and dimension door are all conjuration spells. And that's not even factoring in polymorph, greater mirror image, trollshape, celerity, and displacer form. Even if you were only able to cast conjuration and/or transmutation spells there's still more awesome spells than you have spell slots.
@ninjarabbit, greater mirror image is illusion...
@ninjarabbit, greater mirror image is illusion...
I know but it's still a great 4th level spell and very worthy of a spell slot
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Alternatively, signature spell: orb of force is not a bad thing. I may get shouted down for saying that, but having a no-save no-sr hits-incorporeal option available at all times is not a bad thing. If you know twin spell, or many such things, it rapidly becomes lulz instead of just a bad back-up option. Sometimes, you just gotta pull out and stick up.
I like the way you are thinking but it cost 2 feats, and burning up level +4 spells seems a waste, and i am taking versatile spellcasting so in theory i can make half my level 3 spells into orb spells but that only is gonna give me 2-3 shots.
Definitly will consider summoning but the problem is last time i checked the rogue and the bard were level 4 and the fighter/cleric was level 9, since y will be joining as level 1 my summons will be a tad underpowered, i will cach up quicly as i expect to earn +3000xp per encounter, so i will level up quickly if i manage to survive EL 5's.
The DM will scream at me if i take leadership
If you survive the first couple of encounters, you should be fine. 1 session like that with my DM would give you 2 levels.
Wands aren't bad, but they tie you into 1 spell. also, they are consumable eventually, so stingy players like myself prefer to ignore them. occasionally. they are very nice sometimes. They also have very low DCs and Cls.
Thx for the feedback, im surprised no one is a big fan of wands, are they that bad???
They just simply aren't cost effective and the DCs and CLs of wands are just too low with the DC generally set at 16 and the CL at 7.
Versatile Spellcaster
Heighten Spell
:D
i would always recomend Reserve Feats.... but to get the most from them, you need these feats also:
Versatile Spellcaster
Heighten Spell
:D
how does Versatile Spellcaster and Heighten Spell factor in??? can you explain???
People regularly suggest that if you have slots open that COULD be your spells of the right type, then you satisfy the reserve feat requirements. Versatile + Heighten makes this........................
Weird. Suffice to say that it's theoretically valid but reliant on GM interpretation. Ask before you build a character around it.
And since versatile spellcaster is spontaneous, how does it help?
The idea hinges on the thought that reserve feats concern themselves with your ability to cast spells that qualify, not with your actual list of spells prepared or your set of spell-slots as they exist. The argument, fundamentally, is that as long as your phase-space includes the opportunity to cast spells of the correct type, you auto-qualify.
As a GM, my general rule is that I'm allowed to do what you're allowed to do. Your GM may have a different way of adjudicating things, so be very careful and very polite when trying to talk to him or her about this. Fundamentally, though it's not a huge one, this is a game break. Worse, this logic leads to bad places. Sit and consider your position before taking action. Do not spring this on a GM, particularly not mid-combat. Let them know what you're doing and why.
That being said, last time Rocktopus had a post with "Do not spring this on a DM" that i was aware of, it was in referance to an airfuel bomb.
I mean, you can keep a BC/debuff strategy and work in secondary threat damage.
Burning Blood deals an impressive amount of damage over time.
Are you evil? I usually use zombies/skeletons for my raw damage output.
Am I the only person who always reads the title of this thread as "Killing God as a wizard"?
That was a fun thread while it lasted.... We still need to sit down and turn it into a handbook.
That being said, last time Rocktopus had a post with "Do not spring this on a DM" that i was aware of, it was in referance to an airfuel bomb.
I... see that my reputation precedes me.
the thing is orb of acid is a 4th level spell, will get me 4d6 at 20ft.
fiery burst has more range 30 feat, 5ft radius, reflex half is bad, and i cant go more than 30 feat even with higer levels spells
what other spells of higer level can i use to raise the level, is there a "supreme orb of acid" or something like that?
I'm AFB, but isn't Acid Fog an acid spell?
Yes, yes it is
. Spell Filter: http://www.penpaperpixel.org/tools/d20spellfilter/Anyway, my method of killing things as a god wizard is to play a mailman.
Honestly, the fighter is going around trying to think of ways to make himself sneakier, you don't need to do damage.
That said, Conj. has as many good damage dealers as Evoc., many are better as they have fun secondary effects. (Orb of Fire, Evard's Black Tentacles etc.)
what other spells of higer level can i use to raise the level, is there a "supreme orb of acid" or something like that?
A Heightened Orb of Acid?