Level 1 Hide bonuses?

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NiteCyper

Apr 09, 2010 7:54:41
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Say my goal is a Hide check +30 mod, 24/7.

Unseelie Feya Whisper Gnomeb Dragonfire Adept 1 (0 XP) with 18 Dexc (b4 racial adjustments), 2 flaws, the "Blend into Shadows" feat, the Illiterated trait, two cross-class rankse in Hide, and two open feat slots.

1a+1b+4b+5b+4c+1d+2e=+17.

The best I can devote the two feat slots to stealth is to "Shape Soulmeld (Kruthik Claws)" (+4 Hide & MS) and "Fade into Darkness" (+5 awake) or "Flexible Mind [Anarchic]" (+3). The two feat slots, otherwise, default to the "Darkstalker" feat (for the obvious reason) and the "Intensify Darkness" feat (for stealthy sleep). I assume the Beguiler (ShS) race is cohort-only. A masterwork Hide-tool is 50 gp which is above a quarter of my total wealth, therefore invalid creation. The third feat is "Entangling Exhalation" and the secondary base (class) option (i.e. Warlock) frees up the that feat slot and has a (purportedly1) higher starting gold. Dragonfire Adept's "Starting Gold: 2d4×10 (50 gp)".

1I can't find an official print for the Warlock's starting gold.

P.S. would it be okay to cite "Forgotten Realms Helps"?
#2

NiteCyper

Apr 11, 2010 19:24:46
senrath: Yeah, and the errata says to REMOVE the line about Polymorph Other.
Emphasis added.



Sorry, I had only seen the first page of the errata. This is great!

Sparrow Hengeyokai animal form + Illiterate + 2 ranks = +25 Hide check. Shape Soulmeld (Kruthik Claws) + Fade into Darkness = +9, " + Flexible Mind [Anarchic] = +7.

Alternate Form: The creature retains the spell-like abilities and supernatural attacks of its old form (except for breath weapons and gaze attacks).



This is not great.

Complete Arcane, page 7, Weapon and Armor Proficiency, sub-paragraph 2: However, like arcane
spellcasters, a warlock wearing medium or heavy armor or
using a shield incurs a chance of arcane spell failure (all
invocations, including eldritch blast, have a somatic compo-
nent).



Dragon Magic, page 25, Weapon and Armor Proficiency sub-paragraph: Like arcane spellcasters, a dragonfire adept wearing armor
or using a shield incurs a chance of arcane spell failure (all
invocations have somatic components).



1. As a sparrow, I cannot fulfill the somatic components required of invocations.

2. As I mean to use stealth as a martial advantage, how shall I attack in this form?

#3

lokifleshmage

Apr 12, 2010 12:36:41
well if you had a decent amount of starting gold, there is a psychoactive skin of the chameleon that grants a continual +10 to hide. its 18k though