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#1
thisisclever
Jan 11, 2009 20:28:50 This might not be the right place to ask this, but here it goes...

Okay, so in my current campaign, I just maxed out Walker in the Wastes, making me a CE cleric of Nerrul 5/Walker 10. This means that I have ascended to Dry Lichood (dry lich is a template very similar to regular lich, but with a few extra abilities, like giant sand cloud following me around!!!. Oh, and I have a weakness to water:eek I was just informed that the campaign's going to be switching gears- we're now trudging into a large city that's nowhere near the desert.

So here's my question: how to disguise myself? I can supress the cloud of doom... usually. It requires "concentration", according to sandstorm, so if I get hit in melee, there's a fair chance that I'll increase the local temperature by 50 degrees. Skeletons are easy to masque, as they move like humans, and I can just cover their faces. The sand golem, however...

If it helps- our party consists of:
A tiefling rogue 5/assasin5/ghost-faced killer 5 (no, he's not terribly optimized.We used LA buyoff.)
A scablands orc barbarian 14/fighter 1 (...yeah)
A couple of my skeletons, who work primarily as archers.
A sand golem. Really.

So we lack a dedicated arcanist. Help me.
#2
mcpoyo
Jan 11, 2009 23:25:15 Well, you are coming from a desert. Just cover them all in thick robes and the like. Got anyone with a good disguise mod?

You could always go the easy route, and use a wand of Disguise Undead, as well (Spell Compendium Page 66). Short duration, though.

The sand golem...well, it's Huge sized, so you're going to have issues there.

Extra planar location to hold it in until you need it? That's going to be the tricky one. Any particular reason you have to hide the sand golem?
#3
vglcat
Jan 12, 2009 15:25:26 can you put parts of your sand golem in bags of holding, then with quickdraw open and realease his sandy goodness
#4
umopapisdn
Jan 12, 2009 16:24:26
I can supress the cloud of doom... usually. It requires "concentration", according to sandstorm, so if I get hit in melee, there's a fair chance that I'll increase the local temperature by 50 degrees.

Actually, according to Sandstorm, it takes only a free action each round to consciously suppress your Greater Drought ability, so you're good as long as you remain conscious, which shouldn't be hard for an undead character.

Also, I second the robes idea, and I say get some big ones for your Sand Golem as well - if anyone asks, he's your stoic Giant friend.
#5
aje8
Jan 12, 2009 17:02:09
Also, I second the robes idea, and I say get some big ones for your Sand Golem as well - if anyone asks, he's your stoic Giant friend.

At HUGE size??!!! I'd say that's entirely unrealistic.
Any particular reason you have to hide the sand golem?

Good Question. Can you just waltz in guns blazing so to speak? Is anyone really gonna mess with a Lich Mage surrounded by his Skeleton Attendants, a battletorn Orc frothing at the mouth and a Frickin Tieflingn WITH A HUGE SIZE GOLEM OF SAND AS HIS BODYGUARD?!!! Yeah the commoners will really mess with you then. Got any ranks in intimidate?

Seriously why are you hiding with that party?
#6
thisisclever
Jan 12, 2009 18:44:07
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Seriously why are you hiding with that party?

Actually, that's a very good point.:D
#7
umopapisdn
Jan 12, 2009 18:59:27
At HUGE size??!!! I'd say that's entirely unrealistic.

How is a huge sized, humanoid-shaped construct disguised as huge sized, humanoid-shaped giant at all unrealistic?

Or is it the giant part that gets you? Because depending on the city (and especially with high-level characters), it may not be too implausible for the city to be visited, if not inhabited, by a giant or two now and then. In fact, with that logic, you may not bother hiding the golem - after all, a big city may be no stranger to golems as well. I'd still keep the skeletons disguised though, if only for the comfort of those around you. Walking through a small village undisguised and intentionally threateningly is one thing, but if I were your DM, if a party like yours were to make a scene in a large city, they would be very soon be dealt with by many high-level officials, law-enforcers, and mercenaries. I would try and look a little less scary, just to be safe.
#8
NiteCyper
Jan 12, 2009 20:57:33
Hat of Disguise

This apparently normal hat allows its wearer to alter her appearance as with a disguise self spell. As part of the disguise, the hat can be changed to appear as a comb, ribbon, headband, cap, coif, hood, helmet, and so on.

Faint illusion; CL 1st; Craft Wondrous Item, disguise self; Price 1,800 gp.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/WondrousItems.htm#hatofDisguise
#9
mcpoyo
Jan 14, 2009 22:00:02 No, I meant why bother hiding the golem? If you have a golem, what's the big deal? It's not like it's some huge sized flesh golem, after all.

Also, leave it outside the city?
#10
atomickitkat
Jan 15, 2009 18:54:10 I can't remember if the Sand Golem is amorphous. If it is, just pour it into a portable hole(or very large capacity bag of holding) and call it a day.:P

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 thisisclever Jan 11, 2009 20:28:50	This might not be the right place to ask this, but here it goes... Okay, so in my current campaign, I just maxed out Walker in the Wastes, making me a CE cleric of Nerrul 5/Walker 10. This means that I have ascended to Dry Lichood (dry lich is a template very similar to regular lich, but with a few extra abilities, like giant sand cloud following me around!!!. Oh, and I have a weakness to water:eek I was just informed that the campaign's going to be switching gears- we're now trudging into a large city that's nowhere near the desert. So here's my question: how to disguise myself? I can supress the cloud of doom... usually. It requires "concentration", according to sandstorm, so if I get hit in melee, there's a fair chance that I'll increase the local temperature by 50 degrees. Skeletons are easy to masque, as they move like humans, and I can just cover their faces. The sand golem, however... If it helps- our party consists of: A tiefling rogue 5/assasin5/ghost-faced killer 5 (no, he's not terribly optimized.We used LA buyoff.) A scablands orc barbarian 14/fighter 1 (...yeah) A couple of my skeletons, who work primarily as archers. A sand golem. Really. So we lack a dedicated arcanist. Help me.
#2 mcpoyo Jan 11, 2009 23:25:15	Well, you are coming from a desert. Just cover them all in thick robes and the like. Got anyone with a good disguise mod? You could always go the easy route, and use a wand of Disguise Undead, as well (Spell Compendium Page 66). Short duration, though. The sand golem...well, it's Huge sized, so you're going to have issues there. Extra planar location to hold it in until you need it? That's going to be the tricky one. Any particular reason you have to hide the sand golem?
#3 vglcat Jan 12, 2009 15:25:26	can you put parts of your sand golem in bags of holding, then with quickdraw open and realease his sandy goodness
#4 umopapisdn Jan 12, 2009 16:24:26	I can supress the cloud of doom... usually. It requires "concentration", according to sandstorm, so if I get hit in melee, there's a fair chance that I'll increase the local temperature by 50 degrees. Actually, according to Sandstorm, it takes only a free action each round to consciously suppress your Greater Drought ability, so you're good as long as you remain conscious, which shouldn't be hard for an undead character. Also, I second the robes idea, and I say get some big ones for your Sand Golem as well - if anyone asks, he's your stoic Giant friend.
#5 aje8 Jan 12, 2009 17:02:09	Also, I second the robes idea, and I say get some big ones for your Sand Golem as well - if anyone asks, he's your stoic Giant friend. At HUGE size??!!! I'd say that's entirely unrealistic. Any particular reason you have to hide the sand golem? Good Question. Can you just waltz in guns blazing so to speak? Is anyone really gonna mess with a Lich Mage surrounded by his Skeleton Attendants, a battletorn Orc frothing at the mouth and a Frickin Tieflingn WITH A HUGE SIZE GOLEM OF SAND AS HIS BODYGUARD?!!! Yeah the commoners will really mess with you then. Got any ranks in intimidate? Seriously why are you hiding with that party?
#6 thisisclever Jan 12, 2009 18:44:07	] Seriously why are you hiding with that party? Actually, that's a very good point.:D
#7 umopapisdn Jan 12, 2009 18:59:27	At HUGE size??!!! I'd say that's entirely unrealistic. How is a huge sized, humanoid-shaped construct disguised as huge sized, humanoid-shaped giant at all unrealistic? Or is it the giant part that gets you? Because depending on the city (and especially with high-level characters), it may not be too implausible for the city to be visited, if not inhabited, by a giant or two now and then. In fact, with that logic, you may not bother hiding the golem - after all, a big city may be no stranger to golems as well. I'd still keep the skeletons disguised though, if only for the comfort of those around you. Walking through a small village undisguised and intentionally threateningly is one thing, but if I were your DM, if a party like yours were to make a scene in a large city, they would be very soon be dealt with by many high-level officials, law-enforcers, and mercenaries. I would try and look a little less scary, just to be safe.
#8 NiteCyper Jan 12, 2009 20:57:33	Hat of Disguise This apparently normal hat allows its wearer to alter her appearance as with a disguise self spell. As part of the disguise, the hat can be changed to appear as a comb, ribbon, headband, cap, coif, hood, helmet, and so on. Faint illusion; CL 1st; Craft Wondrous Item, disguise self; Price 1,800 gp. http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/WondrousItems.htm#hatofDisguise
#9 mcpoyo Jan 14, 2009 22:00:02	No, I meant why bother hiding the golem? If you have a golem, what's the big deal? It's not like it's some huge sized flesh golem, after all. Also, leave it outside the city?
#10 atomickitkat Jan 15, 2009 18:54:10	I can't remember if the Sand Golem is amorphous. If it is, just pour it into a portable hole(or very large capacity bag of holding) and call it a day.:P