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#1 Lord_Jaroh Nov 21, 2010 18:01:25	Hi everyone.  I'm playing in a campaign where I've chosen to be a Sorcerer of some sort, however I'm kind of stumped which route to take him.  I figured I'd lay out the rules and see what anyone else suggests.  - Can only use PHB, PHBII, DM Guide and DM Guide II for the build.  No other splat books are allowed.  - Character Level 3, Human Race  - Looking for something beyond just a "blaster" style.  - Stat numbers - 17, 16, 15, 13, 13, 12 What kind of character should I start with and what should I be aiming towards?  I figure somewhere around a level 10 optimization and everything else is gravy. If anyone can help that would be great.  Thanks, EDIT: Added Stats I guess I should add that I did flip through the Optimization FAQ, but there wasn't much on Sorcerers themselves.
#2 dandu Nov 21, 2010 18:24:56	Clearly you should have looked in my signature.
#3 Krusk Nov 21, 2010 19:11:30	Level 10 optimization? Does the scale go to 10 or 100? 5? General sorcerer advice. Take one blasting spell at most each level. Take spells that are useful at all levels. Good level 1 examples include animate rope, expeditious retreat, grease and ray of enfeeblement. Things that don't do direct damage, or allow saves. Also, prestige class into something with full casting ASAP. Sorcerers don't have class features, and those are handy. Fatespinner is generic and good enough for most use. (EW saw DMG is the only source for those... ummm archmage is great, take levels in that and then don't bother with the others).
#4 Lord_Jaroh Nov 21, 2010 19:27:21	Clearly you should have looked in my signature. Your signature was indeed a great read!  Thanks very much. Level 10 optimization? Does the scale go to 10 or 100? 5? General sorcerer advice. Take one blasting spell at most each level. Take spells that are useful at all levels. Good level 1 examples include animate rope, expeditious retreat, grease and ray of enfeeblement. Things that don't do direct damage, or allow saves. Also, prestige class into something with full casting ASAP. Sorcerers don't have class features, and those are handy. Fatespinner is generic and good enough for most use. (EW saw DMG is the only source for those... ummm archmage is great, take levels in that and then don't bother with the others).   I was aiming for the campaign finishing in the 10-12 range, thus I figured I'd aim for a build that was effective all the way through till ten at least (regarding feat selection/spell selection/class selection and such). What is the Archmage from?  I can't find it in the DMG...? Thanks for the advice!
#5 dandu Nov 21, 2010 20:17:50	That's odd, because you'd expect Archmage to be right in front of Assassin in the DMG.
#6 Lord_Jaroh Nov 21, 2010 20:30:35	That's odd, because you'd expect Archmage to be right in front of Assassin in the DMG. Is it in the DM Guide 3.5?  I have the 3.0 version it looks like and in front of Assassin is Arcane Archer...
#7 dandu Nov 21, 2010 20:44:17	It's definately in 3.5, yes.
#8 Lord_Jaroh Nov 21, 2010 20:55:58	I guess I'll have to get my buddy's book and take a look at the class when I see him next.  Thanks again.
#9 dandu Nov 21, 2010 21:07:37	You know it's available online at the Hypertext d20 SRD, right?
#10 Lord_Jaroh Nov 22, 2010 0:46:28	I do now!
#11 tr0llman Nov 22, 2010 6:35:14	Spells: Grease (for being the best 1. level arcane BFC spell) Charm Person (for utility use) Enlarge Person (to let your BSF buddy threaten a much, much larger area) Feat suggestions: Bonded familiar from PHBII.  Apprentice (Spellcaster) from DMGII Scribe Scroll, to avoid running out of spells Craft Wondrous Item And, as always, Improved Initiative.
#12 Krusk Nov 22, 2010 9:23:51	Got you, level 10 character. For whatever reason, I thought you meant "Level 10 optimization" as in like 10/10 in power or something. Not level 10 character. You won't be able to get into archmage, its needs super high levels. 12 minimum. Sorry.
#13 dandu Nov 22, 2010 11:21:42	Minimum of level 13, as you have to be able to cast 7th level spells.