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Looking For Spiked Chain Help

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#1
cole_caecus
Feb 28, 2009 18:08:15 Im making a level 3 character, and want to go Spiked Chain, but i cant seem to find the optimized spiked chain build on here, so could ya give me some help please? Im prefering to be a massive tripper character.
#2
fightfan84
Feb 28, 2009 18:28:16 An idea i've been kicking around for the last two months is for the following.
* Large Creature or if DM willing Powerful Build Race with no LA.
* Fighter 16/War Hulk 4
* Overpowering Attack

Combat Expertise
Deadly Defense
Improved Trip
Knockdown

WF: Spiked Chain
WS: Spiked Chain
Melee Weapon Mastery

cleave
power attack
great cleave

combat reflexes
Robilar's Gambit

Obvously not in that order. Still trying to work it out. But the basic strategy is always use Overpowering Attack combined with War Hulk Cleave ability which will automatically cause a trip attempt to incur on all targets via Knockdown.
#3
angellusmortus
Feb 28, 2009 19:00:55 Spiked chain builds are practically archetypal to the CO forums, if you look in Surreal's "Some Handy Links for CO work" sticky, there are some. I'll go ahead and link them here. That post is very useful for finding old builds though.

http://forums.gleemax.com/wotc_archive/index.php/t-638676

The more classically known: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=163005

Good luck with the wicked powers of the gatling tripper!
#4
bruceleeroy
Mar 01, 2009 3:31:04 A good, easy build is Goliath Barb 1 / Fighter 1. With Wolf Lodge Totem, Improved Trip and EWP: Spiked Chain. You'll need some flaws, too. Take the goliath barbarian racial sub for Mountain Rage, and you actually go Large when raging. Note that this does actually double your reach, getting even more AoOs. You should have about a +15 or so to trip with a ECL of 3.

This could be further optimized, but it's already a bucket of cheese just by going goliath.

Human with Jotunbrud would work too, but you wouldn't have access to Wolf Lodge in that case, IIRC.

The goliath mountain rager is a good base to build a solid tripper out of. Get some extra rage from somewhere at some point (feats, items) because you'll want more fighter levels for more feats like Curling Wave Strike, Robilar's Gambit (or Karmic Strike, or Defensive Throw) among others.
#5
cole_caecus
Mar 01, 2009 12:47:22 I can only use human, no outside races or classes. Feats are ok though.

what is Jotunbrud, and what book?
#6
phaedrusxy
Mar 01, 2009 14:14:44 Jutunbrud is a feat that makes you count as large for a lot of things. It is very similiar to the Powerful Build ability of goliaths and half-giants. I think it was from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting book, and probably reprinted in Player's Guide to Faerun. I don't think there is anything preventing you from taking both Jotunbrud and a Berzerker Lodge feat, either.
#7
bruceleeroy
Mar 01, 2009 14:26:11 They are both Regional Feats, and as such can't both be taken. Berserker Lodge = Rasheman, Jotunbrud = ...somewhere else, I think.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 cole_caecus Feb 28, 2009 18:08:15	Im making a level 3 character, and want to go Spiked Chain, but i cant seem to find the optimized spiked chain build on here, so could ya give me some help please? Im prefering to be a massive tripper character.
#2 fightfan84 Feb 28, 2009 18:28:16	An idea i've been kicking around for the last two months is for the following. * Large Creature or if DM willing Powerful Build Race with no LA. * Fighter 16/War Hulk 4 * Overpowering Attack Combat Expertise Deadly Defense Improved Trip Knockdown WF: Spiked Chain WS: Spiked Chain Melee Weapon Mastery cleave power attack great cleave combat reflexes Robilar's Gambit Obvously not in that order. Still trying to work it out. But the basic strategy is always use Overpowering Attack combined with War Hulk Cleave ability which will automatically cause a trip attempt to incur on all targets via Knockdown.
#3 angellusmortus Feb 28, 2009 19:00:55	Spiked chain builds are practically archetypal to the CO forums, if you look in Surreal's "Some Handy Links for CO work" sticky, there are some. I'll go ahead and link them here. That post is very useful for finding old builds though. http://forums.gleemax.com/wotc_archive/index.php/t-638676 The more classically known: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=163005 Good luck with the wicked powers of the gatling tripper!
#4 bruceleeroy Mar 01, 2009 3:31:04	A good, easy build is Goliath Barb 1 / Fighter 1. With Wolf Lodge Totem, Improved Trip and EWP: Spiked Chain. You'll need some flaws, too. Take the goliath barbarian racial sub for Mountain Rage, and you actually go Large when raging. Note that this does actually double your reach, getting even more AoOs. You should have about a +15 or so to trip with a ECL of 3. This could be further optimized, but it's already a bucket of cheese just by going goliath. Human with Jotunbrud would work too, but you wouldn't have access to Wolf Lodge in that case, IIRC. The goliath mountain rager is a good base to build a solid tripper out of. Get some extra rage from somewhere at some point (feats, items) because you'll want more fighter levels for more feats like Curling Wave Strike, Robilar's Gambit (or Karmic Strike, or Defensive Throw) among others.
#5 cole_caecus Mar 01, 2009 12:47:22	I can only use human, no outside races or classes. Feats are ok though. what is Jotunbrud, and what book?
#6 phaedrusxy Mar 01, 2009 14:14:44	Jutunbrud is a feat that makes you count as large for a lot of things. It is very similiar to the Powerful Build ability of goliaths and half-giants. I think it was from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting book, and probably reprinted in Player's Guide to Faerun. I don't think there is anything preventing you from taking both Jotunbrud and a Berzerker Lodge feat, either.
#7 bruceleeroy Mar 01, 2009 14:26:11	They are both Regional Feats, and as such can't both be taken. Berserker Lodge = Rasheman, Jotunbrud = ...somewhere else, I think.