Looking to get more cohorts. - Downloaded from the Wizards Community, all coding removed by Solauren

Looking to get more cohorts.

Post/Author/DateTime Post
#1
daedhaed
Jul 03, 2013 17:33:42 I have leadership, undead leadership, 9 levels in pale master and I need one more. It doesn't have to be undead but it would be a bonus if it were. I also have improved cohort and epic leadership.
#2
daedhaed
Jul 03, 2013 17:34:42 Also worth noting that this is for an NPC but I want to build it using RAW.
#3
Tempest_Stormwind
Jul 03, 2013 17:47:51 What level are we talking about? I see Epic Leadership in there, and without the 20 level cap you could easily build a character with a high enough Leadership score to have 20th level followers. It's also questionable if the cohort from the Pale Master is separate from Undead Leadership, as it says you gain the cohort exactly as defined by Undead Leadership.

Still, the obvious one you missed was thrallherd. This replaces Leadership, but at 10th level it gives you a second thrall.
#4
daedhaed
Jul 03, 2013 18:09:21 It's a lvl 70 demilich dread necro WitW and a bunch of other stuff. As the DM I'm ruling that the cohorts from undead leadership and pale master stack
#5
Tempest_Stormwind
Jul 03, 2013 18:29:55
It's a lvl 70 demilich dread necro WitW and a bunch of other stuff. As the DM I'm ruling that the cohorts from undead leadership and pale master stack

The game's probably broken apart at this point; as levels increase past epic, the relevance of abilities printed in the books relative to the DM's make-stuff-up ability quickly falls to zero. Not to mention he could pretty easily have cohorts with their own cohorts, psicrystals with Leadership, and an entire army of bound fiends all RAW already.

Honestly, I think you're at the just-make-it-up stage, well over three times the highest levels the game was actually tested for. Sorry I don't think we can be more help.
#6
daedhaed
Jul 03, 2013 19:08:57 I don't intend for him to actually be fought ever but you can't control pcs so I want to have stats in case some stupid pc decides to attack or kill him.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 daedhaed Jul 03, 2013 17:33:42	I have leadership, undead leadership, 9 levels in pale master and I need one more. It doesn't have to be undead but it would be a bonus if it were. I also have improved cohort and epic leadership.
#2 daedhaed Jul 03, 2013 17:34:42	Also worth noting that this is for an NPC but I want to build it using RAW.
#3 Tempest_Stormwind Jul 03, 2013 17:47:51	What level are we talking about? I see Epic Leadership in there, and without the 20 level cap you could easily build a character with a high enough Leadership score to have 20th level followers. It's also questionable if the cohort from the Pale Master is separate from Undead Leadership, as it says you gain the cohort exactly as defined by Undead Leadership. Still, the obvious one you missed was thrallherd. This replaces Leadership, but at 10th level it gives you a second thrall.
#4 daedhaed Jul 03, 2013 18:09:21	It's a lvl 70 demilich dread necro WitW and a bunch of other stuff. As the DM I'm ruling that the cohorts from undead leadership and pale master stack
#5 Tempest_Stormwind Jul 03, 2013 18:29:55	It's a lvl 70 demilich dread necro WitW and a bunch of other stuff. As the DM I'm ruling that the cohorts from undead leadership and pale master stack The game's probably broken apart at this point; as levels increase past epic, the relevance of abilities printed in the books relative to the DM's make-stuff-up ability quickly falls to zero. Not to mention he could pretty easily have cohorts with their own cohorts, psicrystals with Leadership, and an entire army of bound fiends all RAW already. Honestly, I think you're at the just-make-it-up stage, well over three times the highest levels the game was actually tested for. Sorry I don't think we can be more help.
#6 daedhaed Jul 03, 2013 19:08:57	I don't intend for him to actually be fought ever but you can't control pcs so I want to have stats in case some stupid pc decides to attack or kill him.