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Looking to make a Scout Rogue

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#1
belkkor
Dec 20, 2009 3:58:03 I'm wanting to make a Scout/Rogue Sneak Attack Optimized character, but don't want to have to deal with the xp loss for multi-classing, also my DM will not change the ninja stuff to sneak attack or anything else similar... So... any help (oh and spell thief is a no)
#2
belkkor
Dec 20, 2009 3:58:25 BTW I am only allowed 8 lvls at the moment.
#3
gorfnad_the_shiznit
Dec 20, 2009 14:52:19
I'm wanting to make a Scout/Rogue Sneak Attack Optimized character, but don't want to have to deal with the xp loss for multi-classing, also my DM will not change the ninja stuff to sneak attack or anything else similar... So... any help (oh and spell thief is a no)

If you play a human or race that has rogue as a favored class you wil not suffer XP penalty for scout/rogue multiclassing. Also what kind of build were you thinking of?
#4
belkkor
Dec 20, 2009 15:36:06 Well I want either Scout, or Ranger, I have most of the books available, but I want rogue there as an equal or greater class (or an equivilent) I'm wanting a sneak attack/or sudden strike build but no mix. lvl 8 with a 38 pnt ability buy
#5
gorfnad_the_shiznit
Dec 20, 2009 15:44:54
Well I want either Scout, or Ranger, I have most of the books available, but I want rogue there as an equal or greater class (or an equivilent) I'm wanting a sneak attack/or sudden strike build but no mix. lvl 8 with a 38 pnt ability buy

Melee or Ranged focused? Have you look at maybe Swift Hunter build? Any prestige classes interest you?
#6
belkkor
Dec 20, 2009 17:10:21 Ranged me thinks, the party has a cleric game breaker build (zombie 10 head hydra, zombie silver dragon and a skeletal Pit Fiend) so someone needs to do something from the back... We also lack the skill focused characters... So I want to fill that
#7
gorfnad_the_shiznit
Dec 21, 2009 0:24:04 Human
Scout - Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot

Scout

Scout - Dodge

Ranger - Track, ACF Arcane Hunter (CM)

Scout - Swift Hunter

Ranger - Rapid Shot, Mobility

Scout

Ranger - Endurance

Ranger - ACF Distracting Attack (PHBII), Shot on the Run

Ranger

Ranger - Manyshot

Ranger - Greater Manyshot

Ranger

Ranger - ACF Spell Reflection (CM)

Ranger - Practiced Spellcaster or Darkstalker

Ranger - Improved Precise Shot

Ranger

Ranger - Improved Skirmish

Ranger

Ranger

#8
felgoroth
Dec 21, 2009 7:34:34 If you go Ranger 1/Rogue 1/Scout 18 (you can put your Rogue and Scout levels wherever you want) and then take Swift Hunter and Swift Ambusher you get full Sneak Attack, full Skirmish, and all the favored enemies of a 20th level Ranger, not to mention if you pick Undead and other things that can't normally be skirmished you can now skirmish them because of Swift Hunter.
#9
innabinder
Dec 21, 2009 9:02:41
If you go Ranger 1/Rogue 1/Scout 18 (you can put your Rogue and Scout levels wherever you want) and then take Swift Hunter and Swift Ambusher you get full Sneak Attack, full Skirmish, and all the favored enemies of a 20th level Ranger, not to mention if you pick Undead and other things that can't normally be skirmished you can now skirmish them because of Swift Hunter.

Ranger 2/Rogue 1/Spellthief 1/Scout 16 would be my preference here.
#10
houkama
Dec 21, 2009 12:57:10
Ranger 2/Rogue 1/Spellthief 1/Scout 16 would be my preference here.

Spellthief isn't allowed.

Halflings make particularly strong Ranged skirmishers. Especially if you pick up the first Halfling racial substitution level which nets you an extra 1d6 of ranged SA.

EDIT: Also the 5 level Master Thrower Prestige Class is nice for Ranged Skirmishers. I recommend Sneaky Shot, Weak Spot, and Tumbling Shot.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 belkkor Dec 20, 2009 3:58:03	I'm wanting to make a Scout/Rogue Sneak Attack Optimized character, but don't want to have to deal with the xp loss for multi-classing, also my DM will not change the ninja stuff to sneak attack or anything else similar... So... any help (oh and spell thief is a no)
#2 belkkor Dec 20, 2009 3:58:25	BTW I am only allowed 8 lvls at the moment.
#3 gorfnad_the_shiznit Dec 20, 2009 14:52:19	I'm wanting to make a Scout/Rogue Sneak Attack Optimized character, but don't want to have to deal with the xp loss for multi-classing, also my DM will not change the ninja stuff to sneak attack or anything else similar... So... any help (oh and spell thief is a no) If you play a human or race that has rogue as a favored class you wil not suffer XP penalty for scout/rogue multiclassing. Also what kind of build were you thinking of?
#4 belkkor Dec 20, 2009 15:36:06	Well I want either Scout, or Ranger, I have most of the books available, but I want rogue there as an equal or greater class (or an equivilent) I'm wanting a sneak attack/or sudden strike build but no mix. lvl 8 with a 38 pnt ability buy
#5 gorfnad_the_shiznit Dec 20, 2009 15:44:54	Well I want either Scout, or Ranger, I have most of the books available, but I want rogue there as an equal or greater class (or an equivilent) I'm wanting a sneak attack/or sudden strike build but no mix. lvl 8 with a 38 pnt ability buy Melee or Ranged focused? Have you look at maybe Swift Hunter build? Any prestige classes interest you?
#6 belkkor Dec 20, 2009 17:10:21	Ranged me thinks, the party has a cleric game breaker build (zombie 10 head hydra, zombie silver dragon and a skeletal Pit Fiend) so someone needs to do something from the back... We also lack the skill focused characters... So I want to fill that
#7 gorfnad_the_shiznit Dec 21, 2009 0:24:04	Human Scout - Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot Scout Scout - Dodge Ranger - Track, ACF Arcane Hunter (CM) Scout - Swift Hunter Ranger - Rapid Shot, Mobility Scout Ranger - Endurance Ranger - ACF Distracting Attack (PHBII), Shot on the Run Ranger Ranger - Manyshot Ranger - Greater Manyshot Ranger Ranger - ACF Spell Reflection (CM) Ranger - Practiced Spellcaster or Darkstalker Ranger - Improved Precise Shot Ranger Ranger - Improved Skirmish Ranger Ranger
#8 felgoroth Dec 21, 2009 7:34:34	If you go Ranger 1/Rogue 1/Scout 18 (you can put your Rogue and Scout levels wherever you want) and then take Swift Hunter and Swift Ambusher you get full Sneak Attack, full Skirmish, and all the favored enemies of a 20th level Ranger, not to mention if you pick Undead and other things that can't normally be skirmished you can now skirmish them because of Swift Hunter.
#9 innabinder Dec 21, 2009 9:02:41	If you go Ranger 1/Rogue 1/Scout 18 (you can put your Rogue and Scout levels wherever you want) and then take Swift Hunter and Swift Ambusher you get full Sneak Attack, full Skirmish, and all the favored enemies of a 20th level Ranger, not to mention if you pick Undead and other things that can't normally be skirmished you can now skirmish them because of Swift Hunter. Ranger 2/Rogue 1/Spellthief 1/Scout 16 would be my preference here.
#10 houkama Dec 21, 2009 12:57:10	Ranger 2/Rogue 1/Spellthief 1/Scout 16 would be my preference here. Spellthief isn't allowed. Halflings make particularly strong Ranged skirmishers. Especially if you pick up the first Halfling racial substitution level which nets you an extra 1d6 of ranged SA. EDIT: Also the 5 level Master Thrower Prestige Class is nice for Ranged Skirmishers. I recommend Sneaky Shot, Weak Spot, and Tumbling Shot.