JaronK
Or, Mass Suggestion for one giant love-in. :D
JaronK
hypnotism:While the subject is fascinated by this spell, it reacts as though it were two steps more friendly in attitude. This allows you to make a single request of the affected creature (provided you can communicate with it). The request must be brief and reasonable. Even after the spell ends, the creature retains its new attitude toward you, but only with respect to that particular request.
Two steps more more friendly than friendly is fanatic
Fanatic means this
Fanatic: Will give life to serve you Fight to the death against overwhelming odds, throw self in front of onrushing dragon
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Your order is to treat person X as your best friend which you are completely devoted to. You love them with all your heart and will do anything for him/her.
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Cast Love Pain on the newly fanatic. The person the fanatic loves (which you named) will now take 10d6 damage. Rinse and repeat. Then kill the new fanatic after you kill your target.
Nation X has powerful king. Level 5 wizard hates king of nation X.
Level 5 wizard captures one of the lowly servants of king of nation X. He captures her, charms her, and then hypnotizes her. He convinces her that she is in love with the king and will do anything to make the king happy.
He then casts sleep on the poor servant and ties her to her bed. He then cast loves pain on the servant while she sleeps helplessly.
The king takes damage (3d6 since the wizard uses a wand of loves pain which he crafted at caster level 6 due to a magic tattoo). The spell is once again cast, again, and again, and again. Till the king falls over dead.
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A mere level 5 wizard assassinates the king with no save or sr for the king, from an unlimited distance. Now that is what I call "GOD."
Brings new meaning to the song "that's the power of love"
Your order is to treat person X as your best friend which you are completely devoted to. You love them with all your heart and will do anything for him/her.
This is the step I'm not so sure about. Can you really order someone to love someone else? I mean, obviously the fanatic would try, but I'm not sure they can just do that, you know?
Lastai's Caress is on the right track, except they have to love someone other than me or I'm in real trouble. I'm not sure if using Alter Self to look like someone else and then using the spell would work.
JaronK
This is the step I'm not so sure about. Can you really order someone to love someone else? I mean, obviously the fanatic would try, but I'm not sure they can just do that, you know?
A fanatic will throw himself infront of a charging dragon, he will do anything to serve the cause of the person who gave them the order.
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And it isn't like the servant didn't have a relationship before with the king, all you are doing is programing him/her to be totally devoted to the king.
"Instead, the subject’s closest friend or dearest loved one"
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Your command could be, care for the king above all other beings. That is an easily followable request you can give your fanatic, and it will be enough to trigger the spell target to who you want it to be.
A fanatic will throw himself infront of a charging dragon, he will do anything to serve the cause of the person who gave them the order.
Well yeah, so he'll try. But just as he can't necessarily actually kill said dragon, I doubt he'll be able to love them.
And it isn't like the servant didn't have a relationship before with the king, all you are doing is programing him/her to be totally devoted to the king.
My hope is to be able to use this on anyone, without needing to get a servant in advance.
Your command could be, care for the king above all other beings. That is an easily followable request you can give your fanatic, and it will be enough to trigger the spell target to who you want it to be.
My worry is that the spell would actually target me in that case. After all, he loves me so much that he'll do anything.
JaronK
That's like the next step of turning the other cheek.
Mindrape.
Implant: You love _Insert name_ more than anyone else.
This has it's own thread even in here somewhere: BoVD kill at any range with no save or so on, what about searching next time before you post a topic?
Book of Vile Darkness.
Mindrape.
Implant: You love _Insert name_ more than anyone else.
This has it's own thread even in here somewhere: BoVD kill at any range with no save or so on, what about searching next time before you post a topic?
He knows it, its in the OP. What he's looking for is a lower level love-inducing spell.
"Love is a very powerful force. Even more so when it's focused into a coherent beam of destruction." --Black Mage of Eight Bit Theater
Now... for something on topic: Surreal's suggestion combined with Charm Person should work. I also suggested the Elixer of Love in another thread on this topic.
My worry is that the spell would actually target me in that case. After all, he loves me so much that he'll do anything.
JaronK
nope after the request, the only reason the target is fanatical to you is in carrying out that one request. It is in the hypnotism description.
This has it's own thread even in here somewhere: BoVD kill at any range with no save or so on, what about searching next time before you post a topic?
What about reading the OP before you post?
Yes, I know about Mindrape/Love's Pain. The issue with it is that Mindrape is 9th level. Clearly, if we can get this down to a lower level (say, level 3, when Love's Pain turns up) it will be more useful. That's what this thread is about.
JaronK
What about reading the OP before you post?
Yes, I know about Mindrape/Love's Pain. The issue with it is that Mindrape is 9th level. Clearly, if we can get this down to a lower level (say, level 3, when Love's Pain turns up) it will be more useful. That's what this thread is about.
JaronK
I still believe that this should be discussed in the original thread, because while this is improvement to it, there is no real need for another thread.
Haven't there been like, 20 different threads about how to cast higher level spells at lower level? I even believe someone found out a way to cast level 9 spells in level 1 slot, it had something to do with doubling spell slots and spending 2 lower level slots to get one higher.
It's a Greater Invocation, but Devil's Whispers should work, because the targe would actually believe that it was their idea. (11th level.)
JaronK
Love's Pain
Mindrape
Programmed Amnesia
Fanatics
Lastai's Caress
"sneaky blasting" ... (cough)
Elixir of Love
Devil's Whispers
AND being "elegant"
is making the portable MRI Brainwave machine I carry with me,
light up all over the f-izzle place. It looks like Christmas, I'm telling you.
The idea here is to avoid the spell Mindrape, and instead go with something lower level. I'm trying for a nice, elegant solution, not something that involves crazy heightening tricks to cast a 9th level spell 13 level early.
JaronK
I just found something nice in the Tome of Magic that might be usefull for this. All you need is a Binder partymember/cohort who can bind Malpas and have him fall under his influence. Malphas causes him to fall in love easily and devote the binder to the first person to be nice to him.
So if you can have your target make nice gesture to the binder (Suggestion??) the binder will fall in love; and the stealth killing can begin. It is a bit of a workaround but it could work.
JaronK