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lvl2 half giant build ([+5/+5] [3d8 / 2d8])

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#1
sudsymcgee
Mar 23, 2008 7:25:53 i do not believe there are any problems with this if there are pleas tell me.

Full Blade Half Giant Build
(warning… may break DnD and corrupt your mind)
By sudsymcgee

Feats
Two-weapon fighting

I took amnesia to get these
Exotic weapon proficiency full blade (flaw which give an extra feat)
Oversized two weapon fighting (flaw which gives a feat or ambidextrous flaw)
Monkey Grip (flaw which gives a bonus feat)

How it Works
Half giant is considered large which means using a full blade one handed takes –4 non proficiency penalty. you also a –4 with heavy weapon in off hand with two weapon fighting
(a total of –8 / -8 )

Exotic weapon proficiency full blade takes proficiency penalty to 0
(a total of –4 / -4)

Oversized two weapon fighting make the full blade count as light reducing it to -2
(–2/-2)

Now we add monkey grip. Monkey grip applies to main hand so the main hand full blade can be gargantuan (one size larger than he could normally wield and he could normally wield a huge full blade)

And we now make the weapons master crafted for an additional +1

So now we have me at strength 20 (+5) and base attack +1 and enhancement +1

Which gives me

+5/+5

3d8+5 [19-20] / 2d8 +5 [19-20]

at BAB +6 he can wield 2 gargantuan weapons with improved monkey grip which gives the monkey grip affect to the offhand as well.[/b]

I need a class for this to go with, i was thinking warblade... any suggestions
#2
crow04
Mar 23, 2008 13:13:56 monkey grip does not stack with powerful build.
#3
neveroth
Mar 23, 2008 19:40:15
(warning… may break DnD and corrupt your mind)

Ahh, that was hilarious... Welcome to the optimization boards.
#4
larry_the_titan
Mar 24, 2008 8:04:32 Besides powerful Build not stacking with Monkey grip there is another problem. There is also the fact that off hand attacks only get 1/2 you str bonus. So yeah all you can hope for is 2d8+5 / 2d8+2. One of my old favorite builds for a ECL 4 character was Goliath Samurai 1/Ranger 2 with over sized 2 weapon Fighting and Weapon Focus Bastard Sword. Max out strength of 22 for 2d8+6 / 2d8 +3 and a +8 to hit at 3rd level when using my favorite weapon. I tended to finish it off with 2 levels of fighter and entered a Dervish/Tempest combo.

Though as I have said it used to be one of my favorite combo till I learned the weaknesses of the build. Namely you have to make alot of attacks. Your primary focus is to get your AC up so you don't end up being a Glass cannon, and the Build requires you to focus on upping you Dex to make it workable. And then I found better ways to get my damage up. Pick up Tome of Battle some time and learn as much as possible. I suggest you learn to get other mods to damage because they don't have the Goofy half to off hand. Dex and Int are my personal favorites. Though you can get Wisdom and I think even Charisma a way or 2.

This link should Help.

http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=320889

If you want to learn exactly where your mistakes are and why you made them just ask I am sure someone will take the time to point them out.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 sudsymcgee Mar 23, 2008 7:25:53	i do not believe there are any problems with this if there are pleas tell me. Full Blade Half Giant Build (warning… may break DnD and corrupt your mind) By sudsymcgee Feats Two-weapon fighting I took amnesia to get these Exotic weapon proficiency full blade (flaw which give an extra feat) Oversized two weapon fighting (flaw which gives a feat or ambidextrous flaw) Monkey Grip (flaw which gives a bonus feat) How it Works Half giant is considered large which means using a full blade one handed takes –4 non proficiency penalty. you also a –4 with heavy weapon in off hand with two weapon fighting (a total of –8 / -8 ) Exotic weapon proficiency full blade takes proficiency penalty to 0 (a total of –4 / -4) Oversized two weapon fighting make the full blade count as light reducing it to -2 (–2/-2) Now we add monkey grip. Monkey grip applies to main hand so the main hand full blade can be gargantuan (one size larger than he could normally wield and he could normally wield a huge full blade) And we now make the weapons master crafted for an additional +1 So now we have me at strength 20 (+5) and base attack +1 and enhancement +1 Which gives me +5/+5 3d8+5 [19-20] / 2d8 +5 [19-20] at BAB +6 he can wield 2 gargantuan weapons with improved monkey grip which gives the monkey grip affect to the offhand as well.[/b] I need a class for this to go with, i was thinking warblade... any suggestions
#2 crow04 Mar 23, 2008 13:13:56	monkey grip does not stack with powerful build.
#3 neveroth Mar 23, 2008 19:40:15	(warning… may break DnD and corrupt your mind) Ahh, that was hilarious... Welcome to the optimization boards.
#4 larry_the_titan Mar 24, 2008 8:04:32	Besides powerful Build not stacking with Monkey grip there is another problem. There is also the fact that off hand attacks only get 1/2 you str bonus. So yeah all you can hope for is 2d8+5 / 2d8+2. One of my old favorite builds for a ECL 4 character was Goliath Samurai 1/Ranger 2 with over sized 2 weapon Fighting and Weapon Focus Bastard Sword. Max out strength of 22 for 2d8+6 / 2d8 +3 and a +8 to hit at 3rd level when using my favorite weapon. I tended to finish it off with 2 levels of fighter and entered a Dervish/Tempest combo. Though as I have said it used to be one of my favorite combo till I learned the weaknesses of the build. Namely you have to make alot of attacks. Your primary focus is to get your AC up so you don't end up being a Glass cannon, and the Build requires you to focus on upping you Dex to make it workable. And then I found better ways to get my damage up. Pick up Tome of Battle some time and learn as much as possible. I suggest you learn to get other mods to damage because they don't have the Goofy half to off hand. Dex and Int are my personal favorites. Though you can get Wisdom and I think even Charisma a way or 2. This link should Help. http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=320889 If you want to learn exactly where your mistakes are and why you made them just ask I am sure someone will take the time to point them out.