Mage/Archer lvl15

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#1

aeternia

Nov 25, 2008 16:11:32
Hi guys,
A french gamer is looking for your help :D

I'm lurking this board since a couple of years picking some ideas to build my character and right now, it's my turn to kindly ask your help !
I've seen a build which was done by Mr Carnivore
=> http://forums.gleemax.com/wotc_archive/index.php/t-951217

And inside this thread, there's a build for a Duskblade 8/ Spellsinger 1/ Arcane Archer 2/Sublime Chord 4/Abjurant Champion 5 !

I try to mount a character according this build but i should be not enough good for CO !

So i asked the help of the creator and after some MP, we started to have a nice build! But i'm sure you can do something better !

The character should be lvl (or ECL) 15 with 55 points for stats!
All books from Wotc are allowed - No house rules - 200k to spend.

Here are the main build :

Gray Elf
Duskblade 8/ Spellsinger 1/ Arcane Archer 2/Sublime Chord 4/Abjurant Champion 5

Stats (lvl 1 with racial included)
STR 13-2=11
DEX 16+2=18
CON 15-2=13
INT 16+2=18
WIS 14
CHA 18

assuming 2 flaws

Feats:
Point Blank Shot(Flaw Bonus) Could be replaced with cleric
Precise Shot(Flaw Bonus)
1st lvl: Aereni Focus(perform(singing))
Aereni Focus[General] (PGE p20)req:
Elf from Aerenal, 1st level only
Choose one Skill. This skill is always a Class Skill for you –and– you gain a +3 bonus with it. Counts as ‘Skill Focus’ with the indicated skill for purposes of meeting requirements or prerequisites.

3rd lvl: Improved Counterspell
6th lvl: Weapon Focus(composite Longbow) Could be replaced with cleric
9th lvl: ??? (combat casting initially but Duskblade lvl 2 is ok !)
12th lvl: Knowledge Devotion or Penetrating Shot
15th lvl: Quicken Spell
18th lvl: Smiting Spell

Writing this character, i already have an idea !
If i loose one level (which one ?) and i take cloistered cleric of Solonor Thelandira.

I can get 2 domains (war & elf) + Knowledge

War = Free Martial Weapon Proficiency with deity’s favored weapon (if necessary) and Weapon Focus with the deity’s favored weapon.
One feat more !

Elf =Free Point Blank Shot feat
Another feat for free !

Knowledge = Add all Knowledge skills to your list of cleric class skills
Useful for Knowledge Devotion feat

What do you think, any changes to make?
And about the magic items ?
#2

carnivore

Nov 26, 2008 11:17:02
you could adjust the feats like this:

Point Blank Shot(Flaw Bonus)
Precise Shot(Flaw Bonus)
1st lvl: Aereni Focus(perform(singing))
2nd lvl: Combat Casting(Duskblade bonus)
3rd lvl: Improved Counterspell
6th lvl: Weapon Focus(composite Longbow)
9th lvl: Knowledge Devotion
12th lvl: Summon Elemental (Reserve Feat)
15th lvl: Quicken Spell
18th lvl: Smiting Spell

if you wanted to use Cloistered Cleric .... try this:

1/2 Elf.... to avoid Xp Penalties

Cloistered Cleric 1/ Duskblade 7/ Spellsinger 2/ Arcane Archer 2/ Sublime Chord 3/ Abjurant Champion 5

then your feats could be:
Weapon Focus(composite Longbow) (War Bonus)
Point Blank Shot(War Bonus)
Knowledge Devotion(Loose Knowledge Domain...... exchange for this feat)
Aereni Focus(perform(singing))(Flaw Bonus)
Precise Shot(Flaw Bonus)
1st lvl: Improved Counterspell
2nd lvl: Combat Casting(Duskblade bonus)
3rd lvl: Open feat
6th lvl: Quicken Spell
9th lvl: Smiting Spell
12th lvl: Summon Elemental (Reserve Feat)
15th lvl: Open feat
18th lvl: Open feat



:D
#3

aeternia

Nov 26, 2008 12:31:31
I will keep a gray elf (I don't mind about xp penalty)
I'm not sure our DM will be ok to exchange a domain for a feat ...
Last question, what is the utility to have the feat Summon Elemental

Knowledge Devotion can't be 1st as prerequisites are: Knowledge (any) 5 ranks.
You can't have 5 ranks at lvl 1 (4 max)

So, according this build, for the open feats(3), what do you think of :
*Elf lore
*Rapid Shot
*Weapon Finesse for a melee weapon ?
* A divine feat ?
#4

carnivore

Nov 26, 2008 12:53:49
I will keep a gray elf (I don't mind about xp penalty)

ok
I'm not sure our DM will be ok to exchange a domain for a feat ...

he shouldnt have a problem.... the rules for it are in Complete Champion, under Domain Feats
Last question, what is the utility to have the feat Summon Elemental

Summon elemental, +1 CL on summoning spells and allows you to summon any type of Elemental you want for # Rounds = Spell slot kept in reserve, size of Elemental starts at Small , @6th lvl spells = Medium Elemental, @ 8th lvl Spells = Large Elemental

the obey you only and do what ever you want them, if they can
Knowledge Devotion can't be 1st as prerequisites are: Knowledge (any) 5 ranks.
You can't have 5 ranks at lvl 1 (4 max)

you can wait until 2nd lvl to give up your Domain Access

So, according this build, for the open feats(3), what do you think of :
*Elf lore
*Rapid Shot
*Weapon Finesse for a melee weapon ?
* A divine feat ?

will get back with this one later

:D
#5

tana_san

Nov 26, 2008 21:22:07
Last question, what is the utility to have the feat Summon Elemental

Summon elemental, +1 CL on summoning spells and allows you to summon any type of Elemental you want for # Rounds = Spell slot kept in reserve, size of Elemental starts at Small , @6th lvl spells = Medium Elemental, @ 8th lvl Spells = Large Elemental

I’m playing a summoner now and I have to say Summon Elemental is pretty handy feat. (“Go, earth elemental, pass through this wall! Go, air elemental, check that shaft! &c.”)

It cost you one spell known from Sublime Chord (Summon Monster IV) and you have to speak their language (ex. Terran) to give specific command, though.

Check out the 2nd post of Treantmonk20lvl's Mastering the Malconvoker.
#6

feloniousela

Nov 26, 2008 22:51:00
Luckily, Sublime Chords get Speak Language as a class skill....so it shouldn't be too hard to snag a few extra languages if needed.

I also agree. I can't tell you how many times I say "Go check that shaft" to my summoned minions. An invaluable skill.
#7

aeternia

Dec 02, 2008 9:42:02
Any others suggestions ?