Broadly while under the effect of the spell you don't die at -10 hp. You keep on taking damage and if the spell ends and you're on -10 or below you still die.
It's also persistable. So basically your hit point total becomes irrelevant. You need to have some way of not being unconscious while on -1 or less and I was thinking Healing Touch to boost you back up to half health when every body is dead. Essentially you just need to avoid death effects and stuff like disintegrate and you're good to go (and as I recall Bone Knight seems a good plan for that stuff).
What do people think?
~Bowen
Eh, touch spells are good for their ability to be reach/persisted. 1 rd/lvl is nice, don't get me wrong, but immortality from HP damage for a fighter is much nicer buff. :P
It is very debateable whether touch spells are legal targets for Persist. A 3.0 FAQ explicitly said they weren't. I'll leave it at that, because I don't want to derail the thread. :P
Handy little trick, imo.
;) Doesn't stop being disintegrated though.
Meh, decent SR, pretty high touch AC and a great Fortitude save should help a little :P
Besides, I don't think the party actually has Disintegrate in their arsenal
SQUEAL LITTLE PIGGY, SQUEAL!
Its also a druid spell...druids get animal companions...dire boars can be animal companions....dire boars have ferocity (like diehard, only better), druids can also wildshape...dire boar is a valid target for wildshape if you meet the HD...Ferocity is an (Ex)...
SQUEAL LITTLE PIGGY, SQUEAL!
Possibly the best reason I've heard to use a dire boar wildshape ;)
@ Bowen: Hahah, sucks for them. That'll be an intense encounter
I agree with you. That's why I said "reach/persisted" Applying Reach Spell makes it a fixed range of 30' which makes it a valid persist target ;)
Handy little trick, imo.
Ah yeah, missed that reach in there. :P
I agree with you. That's why I said "reach/persisted" Applying Reach Spell makes it a fixed range of 30' which makes it a valid persist target ;)
Handy little trick, imo.
I though only spells with a range of "personal" could be persisted.
I though only spells with a range of "personal" could be persisted.
Personal or "Fixed".
Personal or "Fixed".
I still don't think the trick works though... Reach spells are "ranged touch", and still not persist-able, IIRC.
Possibly the best reason I've heard to use a dire boar wildshape ;)
The difference between Diehard and Ferocity is that Diehard specifically mentions a HP limit "-10" after which point, it doesn't work. Ferocity simply says that you are unaffected by the "disabled" and "dying" conditions, and its normally implied that at -10 you are no longer "dying", but "dead". Since Delay Death removes the "dead" part of being at -10 or below, its safe to assume that you are still "dying" at that point, which you AND your animal companion are explicitly not affected by for the duration of the spell.
Just imagine...druid and his companion both reduced to like....-500 HP or something and still swinging before the party catches on and kills them both with a pair of targeted dispells...
It's amusing. And about the only reason I'd ever use boar form. Multiple natural attacks >>>> single natural in my mind ;) Still nice, though
The boar might make a decent grappler, though, if you have Improved Grapple. Use iterative grapple checks, instead of natural attacks. :P
Meh, decent SR, pretty high touch AC and a great Fortitude save should help a little :P
Besides, I don't think the party actually has Disintegrate in their arsenal
Only SR and touch AC will help. Even if you save, if the 5d6 reduces you 0 or fewer HP, you're ash.
What party doesn't have Disintigrate? The party that's never had it's Fighter trapped in a Forcecage. Or that's never fought a Frenzied Berserker in Deathless Frenzy.
It's amusing. And about the only reason I'd ever use boar form. Multiple natural attacks >>>> single natural in my mind ;) Still nice, though
I find those forms quite a bore.
Yes, this combined with the Die Hard feat has been used in many builds on here. I think there is also a spell that lets you continue to function when below 0 hit points. Beastlands Ferocity, IIRC.
Shape Soulmeld (Rage Claws)>>>>Diehard.
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