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Master of Elementals

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#1
meatzombie
Aug 13, 2009 17:47:47 If I am using the Air/Earth/Fire/Water Domain, it says I can turn or rebuke elementals as a cleric turns or rebukes undead. Does this mean Items that affect your undead turning level (Phylactery of Undead Turning DMG)
would also affect your elemental turning level?

Wordings that support this:
(From SRD)
Air Domain
Granted Powers

Turn or destroy earth creatures as a good cleric turns undead. Rebuke, command, or bolster air creatures as an evil cleric rebukes undead. Use these abilities a total number of times per day equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier. This granted power is a supernatural ability.

Phylactery of Undead Turning

This item is a boon to any character able to turn undead, allowing him to do so as if his class level were four levels higher than it actually is.

Moderate necromancy [good]; CL 10th; Craft Wondrous Item, 10th-level cleric; Price 11,000 gp.

It allows the cleric to turn undead as if four levels higher, then the domain ability says "turns as they turn undead"

My proposed build for this concept
Cleric Of Obad-hai 5/Paragnostic Apostle 5/Contemplative 1/Divine Disciple 1/??? 8
Anyone know of another class that stacks with turn/rebuking level? Im already losing 2 levels due to wanting the other two domains, and would not like to lose any more.

Also, is there a limit to how many HD you can control of elementals at a time through rebuking?
#2
meatzombie
Aug 14, 2009 18:42:52 so....uh, I should ask custserv?
#3
temetnosce
Aug 14, 2009 20:18:50 By RAW it seems fairly clearly to work assuming what you've just posted is word for word. The ability works using your turn undead, the item gives a boost to your turn undead.
#4
deoxhydroxinate
Aug 14, 2009 20:27:35 It works. You're increasing your turning ability and your turning ability now affects elementals so, you're good.
#5
phoenix00
Aug 15, 2009 0:14:00 It works, nothing new, look into planar binding (and then rebuking) immoeths. Now those are some elementals you will want to bind (which ironically are ice, cold, and air types and thus can get 3 sources, 4 if you make them corpse/bone creatures).

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#1 meatzombie Aug 13, 2009 17:47:47	If I am using the Air/Earth/Fire/Water Domain, it says I can turn or rebuke elementals as a cleric turns or rebukes undead. Does this mean Items that affect your undead turning level (Phylactery of Undead Turning DMG) would also affect your elemental turning level? Wordings that support this: (From SRD) Air Domain Granted Powers Turn or destroy earth creatures as a good cleric turns undead. Rebuke, command, or bolster air creatures as an evil cleric rebukes undead. Use these abilities a total number of times per day equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier. This granted power is a supernatural ability. Phylactery of Undead Turning This item is a boon to any character able to turn undead, allowing him to do so as if his class level were four levels higher than it actually is. Moderate necromancy [good]; CL 10th; Craft Wondrous Item, 10th-level cleric; Price 11,000 gp. It allows the cleric to turn undead as if four levels higher, then the domain ability says "turns as they turn undead" My proposed build for this concept Cleric Of Obad-hai 5/Paragnostic Apostle 5/Contemplative 1/Divine Disciple 1/??? 8 Anyone know of another class that stacks with turn/rebuking level? Im already losing 2 levels due to wanting the other two domains, and would not like to lose any more. Also, is there a limit to how many HD you can control of elementals at a time through rebuking?
#2 meatzombie Aug 14, 2009 18:42:52	so....uh, I should ask custserv?
#3 temetnosce Aug 14, 2009 20:18:50	By RAW it seems fairly clearly to work assuming what you've just posted is word for word. The ability works using your turn undead, the item gives a boost to your turn undead.
#4 deoxhydroxinate Aug 14, 2009 20:27:35	It works. You're increasing your turning ability and your turning ability now affects elementals so, you're good.
#5 phoenix00 Aug 15, 2009 0:14:00	It works, nothing new, look into planar binding (and then rebuking) immoeths. Now those are some elementals you will want to bind (which ironically are ice, cold, and air types and thus can get 3 sources, 4 if you make them corpse/bone creatures).