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#1
papasith
Apr 02, 2008 23:13:17 i asked this on the rules counceling board but thought it also appropriate for here
A few people in my game are argueing on an acspect of the monks belt.
it says "you gain the ac of a 5th level monk. this ac bonus functions just like the monks ac bonus."

they want to argue that for a non monk, this allows you to add wis to ac. i disagree personally, but want others input. has this been addressed in some errata already?
what is the general concensus of how this works?
#2
nebo
Apr 02, 2008 23:16:10
i asked this on the rules counceling board but thought it also appropriate for here
A few people in my game are argueing on an acspect of the monks belt.
it says "you gain the ac of a 5th level monk. this ac bonus functions just like the monks ac bonus."

they want to argue that for a non monk, this allows you to add wis to ac. i disagree personally, but want others input. has this been addressed in some errata already?
what is the general concensus of how this works?

Read the Monk's ability "AC Bonus" This is how the belt works.
#3
papasith
Apr 02, 2008 23:33:34 i could be incorrect, but the way i read it, you get the +1 ac bonus, and that +1 functions as the ac bonus of a monk ie it applies to touch attacks ect.

the question here is by "AC bonus of a 5th lvl monk" are they intened the wis bonus to be there? i dont think so, but like i said im putting it here to get some intelligent input either way
#4
archerpwr
Apr 02, 2008 23:39:47
i could be incorrect, but the way i read it, you get the +1 ac bonus, and that +1 functions as the ac bonus of a monk ie it applies to touch attacks ect.

the question here is by "AC bonus of a 5th lvl monk" are they intened the wis bonus to be there? i dont think so, but like i said im putting it here to get some intelligent input either way

www.d20srd.org
This way you can read the monk description before wasting more of our time.
#5
aftercrescent
Apr 03, 2008 0:16:01 Simply because I fear you have reading issues and won't be able to find the monk class on the srd...

AC Bonus (Ex)
When unarmored and unencumbered, the monk adds her Wisdom bonus (if any) to her AC. In addition, a monk gains a +1 bonus to AC at 5th level. This bonus increases by 1 for every five monk levels thereafter (+2 at 10th, +3 at 15th, and +4 at 20th level).

These bonuses to AC apply even against touch attacks or when the monk is flat-footed. She loses these bonuses when she is immobilized or helpless, when she wears any armor, when she carries a shield, or when she carries a medium or heavy load.

#6
zendu
Apr 03, 2008 0:46:47 Who cares if its 9,000 gold more than an item that does the same thing, it must work the way I read it!
#7
wih
Apr 03, 2008 0:52:17 Monk's AC bonus is WIS+1/5level. Thus, you get WIS+1 with the same restrictions as a Monk (no armour, sheild etc). The FAQ supports this reading.
#8
risner
Apr 03, 2008 20:11:37
they want to argue that for a non monk, this allows you to add wis to ac. i disagree personally, but want others input. has this been addressed in some errata already?
what is the general concensus of how this works?

There is no concensus since there is no one saying it only adds +1 and not Wis too. It adds (Wisdom+1) to AC. That is the official way it works and the only way to read the ability by RAW.
#9
andyjames
Apr 03, 2008 20:17:16 Wouldn't that mean consensus? Everyone agrees that it works a particular way?
#10
ChristopherGroves
Apr 03, 2008 21:12:14 Either way, it's in the FAQ.
#11
x-codes
Apr 03, 2008 23:01:00
Either way, it's in the FAQ.

...and before someone notes how we've bashed the FAQ in the past, that was because it was wrong. This time it's not.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 papasith Apr 02, 2008 23:13:17	i asked this on the rules counceling board but thought it also appropriate for here A few people in my game are argueing on an acspect of the monks belt. it says "you gain the ac of a 5th level monk. this ac bonus functions just like the monks ac bonus." they want to argue that for a non monk, this allows you to add wis to ac. i disagree personally, but want others input. has this been addressed in some errata already? what is the general concensus of how this works?
#2 nebo Apr 02, 2008 23:16:10	i asked this on the rules counceling board but thought it also appropriate for here A few people in my game are argueing on an acspect of the monks belt. it says "you gain the ac of a 5th level monk. this ac bonus functions just like the monks ac bonus." they want to argue that for a non monk, this allows you to add wis to ac. i disagree personally, but want others input. has this been addressed in some errata already? what is the general concensus of how this works? Read the Monk's ability "AC Bonus" This is how the belt works.
#3 papasith Apr 02, 2008 23:33:34	i could be incorrect, but the way i read it, you get the +1 ac bonus, and that +1 functions as the ac bonus of a monk ie it applies to touch attacks ect. the question here is by "AC bonus of a 5th lvl monk" are they intened the wis bonus to be there? i dont think so, but like i said im putting it here to get some intelligent input either way
#4 archerpwr Apr 02, 2008 23:39:47	i could be incorrect, but the way i read it, you get the +1 ac bonus, and that +1 functions as the ac bonus of a monk ie it applies to touch attacks ect. the question here is by "AC bonus of a 5th lvl monk" are they intened the wis bonus to be there? i dont think so, but like i said im putting it here to get some intelligent input either way www.d20srd.org This way you can read the monk description before wasting more of our time.
#5 aftercrescent Apr 03, 2008 0:16:01	Simply because I fear you have reading issues and won't be able to find the monk class on the srd... AC Bonus (Ex) When unarmored and unencumbered, the monk adds her Wisdom bonus (if any) to her AC. In addition, a monk gains a +1 bonus to AC at 5th level. This bonus increases by 1 for every five monk levels thereafter (+2 at 10th, +3 at 15th, and +4 at 20th level). These bonuses to AC apply even against touch attacks or when the monk is flat-footed. She loses these bonuses when she is immobilized or helpless, when she wears any armor, when she carries a shield, or when she carries a medium or heavy load.
#6 zendu Apr 03, 2008 0:46:47	Who cares if its 9,000 gold more than an item that does the same thing, it must work the way I read it!
#7 wih Apr 03, 2008 0:52:17	Monk's AC bonus is WIS+1/5level. Thus, you get WIS+1 with the same restrictions as a Monk (no armour, sheild etc). The FAQ supports this reading.
#8 risner Apr 03, 2008 20:11:37	they want to argue that for a non monk, this allows you to add wis to ac. i disagree personally, but want others input. has this been addressed in some errata already? what is the general concensus of how this works? There is no concensus since there is no one saying it only adds +1 and not Wis too. It adds (Wisdom+1) to AC. That is the official way it works and the only way to read the ability by RAW.
#9 andyjames Apr 03, 2008 20:17:16	Wouldn't that mean consensus? Everyone agrees that it works a particular way?
#10 ChristopherGroves Apr 03, 2008 21:12:14	Either way, it's in the FAQ.
#11 x-codes Apr 03, 2008 23:01:00	Either way, it's in the FAQ. ...and before someone notes how we've bashed the FAQ in the past, that was because it was wrong. This time it's not.