More Feats Than You Can Shake A Stick At

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#1

PlzBreakMyCampaign

Jul 06, 2009 12:04:49
I created a neutral cleric build that can command a 89HD undead creature. That's cool. But I also get to choose its feats. So my question to the boards is: what would you do if you had thirty feats to pick out?

Improved toughness is a no brainer but after that I don't know what seems best. The undead has a trample, so that can be boosted. I might as well use it in combat so improved initiative would be good.

Making it a meatshield, keeping control of it, and using it for its massive skills would all be wonderful.

edit: No epic feats please.
#2

minneyar

Jul 06, 2009 12:53:45
What sort of undead is this? Might as well pick feats that complement it.
#3

jgumbyrx

Jul 06, 2009 13:19:37
just bust-out LM and SS, and just go to town. :D
#4

Omen_of_Peace

Jul 06, 2009 13:32:19
The Draconomicon has decent epic feats - like Spellcasting Harrier for instance (a slightly more powerful version of Mage Slayer). Also look at Devastating Critical - it has a lot of weak prerequisites, but if you equip your bodyguard with a Falchion his enemies will often be forced to save vs a very high DC or die.
#5

Endarire

Jul 06, 2009 18:46:53
Paint the town red.
#6

mister_crowley

Jul 06, 2009 19:01:55
toughness x 30
#7

naldor

Jul 06, 2009 23:35:45
toughness x 30

:heehee I feel sorry for that feat sometimes, it's got to be in the running for worst feat ever printed. But depending on the type of undead it is, and its strength score, I can see some very, very scary charging builds using the techniques Endarire put together in the Red Raiding Hood thread.

+1 to Devastating Critical & Libris Mortis.
#8

magmer1

Jul 07, 2009 0:19:47
Thats thirty feats so Combat reflexes, robilars gambit, power attack, shape soul meldx3. undead meldshaper open greater chakra, open heart chakra open soul chakra, epic essentiax9. Pick up spell ward shirt, keen eye lenses, manticore belt. Your undead will be able to fly by attack with a 90 flight, have true seeing, and spell resistance 45

Or you could drop the lenses and go with planar chausable for gate, but I just don't know about the 1000 experience cost on that. Do undead even have experiance?
#9

PlzBreakMyCampaign

Jul 08, 2009 9:00:05
The undead is the highest HD undead I could find; a necronaut (MM3). The unholy toughness was a big selling point :P

and
Thats thirty feats so Combat reflexes, robilars gambit, power attack, shape soul meldx3. undead meldshaper open greater chakra, open heart chakra open soul chakra, epic essentiax9. Pick up spell ward shirt, keen eye lenses, manticore belt. Your undead will be able to fly by attack with a 90 flight, have true seeing, and spell resistance 45

Or you could drop the lenses and go with planar chausable for gate, but I just don't know about the 1000 experience cost on that. Do undead even have experiance?

That's the sort of thing I was hoping for

Oh but no epic feats please.
#10

blightersbane

Jul 08, 2009 11:27:09
How did, where, who, what level??? A Cleric and a 89 hd undead, how?
#11

PlzBreakMyCampaign

Jul 08, 2009 11:33:30
How did, where, who, what level??? A Cleric and a 89 hd undead, how?

I really don't care to answer that question since highly min-maxed builds attract even higher amounts of criticism. But it is possible, without cheese, pre-epic.

Well, actually I would post it if I knew it wouldn't become ... snarky. Three people's genuine interest would be sufficient, I hope, to assure this.
#12

syrazemyla

Jul 08, 2009 12:12:58
I really don't care to answer that question since highly min-maxed builds attract even higher amounts of criticism.

You've been on the wrong boards. The whole point of our existence is highly min-maxed builds.

I'd like to know how it's possible, and if it scales up or down (if you can do something similar at higher or lower levels).
#13

kopana

Jul 08, 2009 19:35:42
I too would be very interested in this. I'd probably get in trouble if I tried to break out such silly cheese in a game, but it'd be fun to try anyway. :D
#14

kell_kheraptis

Jul 09, 2009 4:11:56
, don't forget to take full advantage of reach with that monstrosity. Trip and fling, and hell, throw on Martial Study to get the Setting Sun ones that let you literally fling people. Thicket of Blades would be nice too, along with Stand Still. Don't suppose that thing can use a weapon, can it? Hmmm...Magic Jar/bind a ghost if need be?
#15

magicdealer

Jul 10, 2009 0:43:14
1. Improved Toughness *from LM*
2. Improved Turn Resistance
3. Lifebond *your character*
4. Positive Energy Resistance
5. Improved Natural Attack
6. Cumbrous Dodge
7. Cumbrous Reflexes
8. Inured to Energy (positive)
9. Precise Swing
10. Weapon Focus
11. Power Critical
12. Power Attack
13. Powerful Charge
14. Greater Powerful Charge
15. Reckless Charge
16. Shock Trooper
17. Leap Attack
18. Improved Unarmed Strike
19. Beast Strike
20. Versatile Unarmed Strike
21. Combat Reflexes
22. Robilar's Gambit
23. Hold the Line
24. Cleave
25. Great Cleave
26. Combat Focus
27. Combat Vigor
28. Improved Initiative
29. Danger Sense
30. Inured to Energy 2 (positive)
*extra cheese*

Sacred Vow
Vow of Poverty
Item Familiar or Ancestral Relic

Make unarmed attacks with 1d8 damage, add your slam damage to it (which is increased from 4d6 to 4d8), with lots of extra damage on charges, leap attack for double power attack damage, extra positive energy resistance, more hitpoints, the ability to take your power attack penalty to your ac instead of your attack roll, the ability to auto attack anyone who hits you, improved turn resistance, initiative reroll, and if you grab ancestral relic, go for an amulet of mighty fists, and buff your attacks good :D
#16

PlzBreakMyCampaign

Jul 11, 2009 3:14:19
Hey magicdealer I love that extra cheese. Now where are my fries! But seriously listing them out was beautiful.

After a nice apology and what hinted at interest here we go: SHAZAM
#17

orc_kirin

Jul 11, 2009 10:56:52
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#18

hand_of_vecna

Jul 11, 2009 11:08:16
less than 20 feats in martial study and martial stance should give him 4-5 9nth lvl manuevers and a strong stance.
#19

awaken_D_M_golem

Jul 11, 2009 13:56:34
hmm ...
http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=15217233&postcount=18
You could have the Undead, do the basics of the Big Guy Is With Me build.
1) Hidden Talent
3) [Host] feat from CPsi
6) Psicrystal Affinity
9) Improved Psicrystal (this one bumps the ML +1)
12+) these bump the "level"

This'll make the Undead, just be a bruiser.
The Psicrystal is Level 27
That means it gets 1 power up to level 8.
And "only" 9 feats.
Less work to do, more sneakiness.
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