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#1 adslahnit May 05, 2008 1:03:43	Alright, so the game ended about a year ago and I didn't get a chance to play in it, but it was one hell of a min-maxing showdown, and now I have taken it upon myself to make a character for such a game. Now, the build I'm thinking of is a Charisma ***** build. I'm using a magic-blooded venerable Dragonwrought kobold (+0 LA, +5 Charisma) as the base, and now I need to fill out one gestalt side with mostly templates. I'm looking for templates that have a 2:1 Charisma:LA ratio or higher, and here are the templates I've found so far: Evolved Undead (Libris Mortis): +1 LA, +2 Charisma, stackable template Half-Fey (Fiend Folio): +2 LA, +4 Charisma Phrenic (Expanded Psionics Handbook): +2 LA, +4 Charisma Saint (Book of Exalted Deeds): +2 LA, +4 Charisma Obah-Blessed, +4 Arms (Dungeon Magazine #136): +3 LA, +6 Charisma Radiant (Dragon Magazine #321): +3 LA, +6 Charisma Any other templates out there that have a 2:1 Charisma:LA ratio or higher?
#2 phoenix00 May 05, 2008 1:11:31	http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060630a Variant Half Fiend with Succubi as a Parent. Str +2, Dex +2, Int +4, and Cha +8. LA 4 various spell like abilities and other benefits the half fiend template gives
#3 ieniemienie May 05, 2008 3:15:50	Here you can find a lot of templates, under which the Fire Souled template from Dragon Magazine #314, which gives you +4 Charisma, Immunity to Stunning! and Daze!, 1/day Haste, FREE Leadership feat and to top it off a +2 on your leadership score,(and some more goodies) all that for a whopping 1 LA!!!
#4 adslahnit May 05, 2008 3:33:20	Here you can find a lot of templates, under which the Fire Souled template from Dragon Magazine #314, which gives you +4 Charisma, Immunity to Stunning! and Daze!, 1/day Haste, FREE Leadership feat and to top it off a +2 on your leadership score,(and some more goodies) all that for a whopping 1 LA!!! Fire-Souled is actually +3 LA. Believe me, I have the issue of Dragon in question with me here. CrystalKeep goofs up sometimes.
#5 blargney_the_second May 05, 2008 3:49:58	CrystalKeep goofs up everything. Fixed it for you. :D
#6 ieniemienie May 05, 2008 4:05:17	Fire-Souled is actually +3 LA. Believe me, I have the issue of Dragon in question with me here. CrystalKeep goofs up sometimes. Ah, I already thought it too good to be true :P The best error of Crystalkeep is the Xvart; -2 LA :D
#7 carnivore May 05, 2008 5:43:49	Alright, so the game ended about a year ago and I didn't get a chance to play in it, but it was one hell of a min-maxing showdown, and now I have taken it upon myself to make a character for such a game. Now, the build I'm thinking of is a Charisma ***** build. I'm using a magic-blooded venerable Dragonwrought kobold (+0 LA, +5 Charisma) as the base, and now I need to fill out one gestalt side with mostly templates. I'm looking for templates that have a 2:1 Charisma:LA ratio or higher, and here are the templates I've found so far: Evolved Undead (Libris Mortis): +1 LA, +2 Charisma, stackable template Half-Fey (Fiend Folio): +2 LA, +4 Charisma Phrenic (Expanded Psionics Handbook): +2 LA, +4 Charisma Saint (Book of Exalted Deeds): +2 LA, +4 Charisma Obah-Blessed, +4 Arms (Dungeon Magazine #136): +3 LA, +6 Charisma Radiant (Dragon Magazine #321): +3 LA, +6 Charisma Any other templates out there that have a 2:1 Charisma:LA ratio or higher? its not just the CHA boost you need to look at but what else it has ..... Saint is incredible for +2 LA 1/2 Fey and Phrenic are also great :D
#8 cowzrul May 05, 2008 6:28:22	Why not a Loredrake Kobold?
#9 Xeraph May 05, 2008 6:33:28	Silveraith is pretty cool.
#10 adslahnit May 05, 2008 6:41:14	Silveraith is pretty cool. Uh, I thought that the Silverwraith template is LA N/A, and it only gives +2 Charisma?
#11 Xeraph May 05, 2008 8:47:21	I think the LA is +8, can't give you a source though. And no, while not technically a booster of Charisma, it has some awesome Charisma dependent abilities. A Magicblood Silveraith Dragonwrought Kobold 8/ Hexblade 3/ Paladin of Slaughter 2/ Monk 2/ Battle Dancer 1/ Bard 4 with Snowflake Wardance, Divine Might, Slippers of Battledancing, Ascetic Mage is nice... well you get the picture.