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Most languages known at ECL1?

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#1
Endarire
Sep 11, 2008 15:03:44 Venerable or Old Gray Elf Bard1
22+ base INT

Languages from Race: 8 (Common, Draconic, Elven, Gnoll, Gnome, Goblin, Orc, and Sylvan)

Languages from Speak Language ranks: 4

TOTAL: 12

How can I improve this?
#2
hogarth
Sep 11, 2008 15:08:21 Venerable or Old Forest Gnome
Int 20

Languages: Gnome, Elven, Sylvan, "forest animal", Common, Draconic, Dwarven, Giant, Goblin

(Can buy more with skill points.)
#3
carnivore
Sep 11, 2008 15:11:04 try this:

old Strongheart Halfling

Bard

20 Int

Languages from Race: 7 (Common, Halfling, Dwarven, Elven, Gnome, Goblin, Orc)

Languages from total Skill points = 6+ 5 Int = 11x4 1st lvl = 44 skill points = 44 languages

Flaws:
Vulnerable
Murkey eyed

feats:
Open Minded x4 = +20 languages
OPEN MINDED [GENERAL]
You are naturally able to reroute your memory, mind, and skill expertise.

Benefit: You immediately gain an extra 5 skill points. You spend these skill points as normal. If you spend them on a cross-class skills they count as 1/2 ranks. You cannot exceed the normal maximum ranks for your level in any skill.

Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Each time, you immediately gain another 5 skill points.

TOTAL: 71 languages

:D
#4
deathlessjuan
Sep 11, 2008 15:18:12 Until you realise that you can't put more than 4 skill points into a skill at level 1. No 31 languages for you.
#5
carnivore
Sep 11, 2008 15:21:29
Until you realise that you can't put more than 4 skill points into a skill at level 1. No 31 languages for you.

Speak Language is handled Differently... notice:

SPEAK LANGUAGE (NONE; TRAINED ONLY)
Table: Common Languages and Their Alphabets

Action: Not applicable.

Try Again: Not applicable. There are no Speak Language checks to fail.

The Speak Language skill doesn’t work like other skills. Languages work as follows.

You start at 1st level knowing one or two languages (based on your race), plus an additional number of languages equal to your starting Intelligence bonus.
You can purchase Speak Language just like any other skill, but instead of buying a rank in it, you choose a new language that you can speak.
You don’t make Speak Language checks. You either know a language or you don’t.
A literate character (anyone but a barbarian who has not spent skill points to become literate) can read and write any language she speaks. Each language has an alphabet, though sometimes several spoken languages share a single alphabet.

there is no limit on how many languages you can get... since you Dont buy Ranks in it... you purchase Languages

:D
#6
arteyu
Sep 11, 2008 15:45:12 31 languages? How many languages are there in the game to select from?
#7
carnivore
Sep 11, 2008 15:52:00 there are 20 common languages:

Abyssal
Aquan
Auran
Celestial
Common
Draconic
Druidic
Dwarven
Elven
Giant
Gnome
Goblin
Gnoll
Halfling
Ignan
Infernal
Orc
Sylvan
Terran
Undercommon

then there are additional obscure languages:

Drow Sign language
Imaskari
Ancient Suloise... useful for Suel Arcanamach PrC
etc.....

then there are Homebrew/DM choice languages

:D
#8
carnivore
Sep 11, 2008 15:56:00 updated... when i realized i didnt spend all my skill points on Languages....

max total = 71 languages @ 1st lvl

:D
#9
altpersona
Sep 11, 2008 15:58:05 hmm,

19/20 int race + 3 venerable = int 22ish (+6)

scout 8 + 6 x 4= 56
2 feats = 10
2 flaws = 2 feats = 10

isnt that 76?

now, if we add a casting of foxes cunning, thanks spell casting services..

we can add another 8.. for 84...

i did scout because speak lang is on its list and its 8+ int..

2 ish from racial lang, 8 from int nd 84 from skills looks like 94 languages..

at what point do you have to start making them up?
#10
tshern
Sep 11, 2008 15:58:14 Wow! Now you can add the ancient version of Infernal that only Lords of the Nine use! And Derro sign too.
#11
altpersona
Sep 11, 2008 16:01:46 now that i have an idea of the practical limits, its a shame the next game i will be in is 4. otherwise i would do the all languages diplomonster

my last Expert had wasted skill points as it was... i should have used em in languages.. drat..
#12
carnivore
Sep 11, 2008 16:05:34
hmm,

19/20 int race + 3 venerable = int 22ish (+6)

scout 8 + 6 x 4= 56
2 feats = 10
2 flaws = 2 feats = 10

isnt that 76?

now, if we add a casting of foxes cunning, thanks spell casting services..

we can add another 8.. for 84...

i did scout because speak lang is on its list and its 8+ int..

2 ish from racial lang, 8 from int nd 84 from skills looks like 94 languages..

at what point do you have to start making them up?

good job... but you are only @ 76..... Foxes Cunning does not Add Skill points that you can Spend on Languages

if only Rogue had Speak language on its Skill list.... then Changeling Rogue Sub lvl 1 would be great with 10 skill points

:D
#13
carnivore
Sep 11, 2008 16:07:53 another idea....

Any race

Warlock 1

least Invocation:
All seeing Eyes..... gain Comprehend Languages

total Languages: ALL written

:D
#14
altpersona
Sep 11, 2008 16:11:24 ya, i reread it... thats - 10

but its still 76 from skill points, 6 from int mod and a couple from race..

looks like at least 83.
#15
carnivore
Sep 11, 2008 16:12:27 nice

:D
#16
altpersona
Sep 11, 2008 16:19:01 now to find an extra 50 odd languages to use em on...
#17
Endarire
Sep 11, 2008 19:44:07 I realize comprehend languages allows me to read any written language, but that's beside the point. I'm interested in languages my character knows and can fluently speak, write, and read.
#18
obtusehobbit
Sep 11, 2008 23:13:49
if only Rogue had Speak language on its Skill list.... then Changeling Rogue Sub lvl 1 would be great with 10 skill points

:D

You can do this one of the changeling racial traits is that they add speak language to there class list. Also the illumian from races of destiny also add speak language to there class list
#19
Senevri
Sep 12, 2008 1:54:24 ...But can you speak Druidic? :P
#20
bauglir
Sep 12, 2008 9:09:46 Hellbred. They retain the ability to speak all the languages they spoke in their previous life. Just play a Hellbred who had Polyglot when they were alive.
#21
pithica
Sep 12, 2008 11:22:56 Probably not the record, but I once made an NPC Old Sun Elf Rogue with Gift of Tongues from Races of Faerun. That feat makes Speak Language always a class skill, gives you 2 bonus languages at 1st, and (effectively) adds all languages to your 'bonus language' list for languages you actually can select. If you spent all your Rogue skills on Speak Language, it could be a respectable showing.

If you took two Flaws and added 2x Open Minded, you're looking at 74 (6 from Int (Base Int 18 + 2 Sun Elf + 2 Old = 22) + 2 from Gift of Tongues + 56 from Skill ranks ((8 + 6)*4 = 56) + 10 from Open Minded = 74)

Pretty close, looks like.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 Endarire Sep 11, 2008 15:03:44	Venerable or Old Gray Elf Bard1 22+ base INT Languages from Race: 8 (Common, Draconic, Elven, Gnoll, Gnome, Goblin, Orc, and Sylvan) Languages from Speak Language ranks: 4 TOTAL: 12 How can I improve this?
#2 hogarth Sep 11, 2008 15:08:21	Venerable or Old Forest Gnome Int 20 Languages: Gnome, Elven, Sylvan, "forest animal", Common, Draconic, Dwarven, Giant, Goblin (Can buy more with skill points.)
#3 carnivore Sep 11, 2008 15:11:04	try this: old Strongheart Halfling Bard 20 Int Languages from Race: 7 (Common, Halfling, Dwarven, Elven, Gnome, Goblin, Orc) Languages from total Skill points = 6+ 5 Int = 11x4 1st lvl = 44 skill points = 44 languages Flaws: Vulnerable Murkey eyed feats: Open Minded x4 = +20 languages OPEN MINDED [GENERAL] You are naturally able to reroute your memory, mind, and skill expertise. Benefit: You immediately gain an extra 5 skill points. You spend these skill points as normal. If you spend them on a cross-class skills they count as 1/2 ranks. You cannot exceed the normal maximum ranks for your level in any skill. Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Each time, you immediately gain another 5 skill points. TOTAL: 71 languages :D
#4 deathlessjuan Sep 11, 2008 15:18:12	Until you realise that you can't put more than 4 skill points into a skill at level 1. No 31 languages for you.
#5 carnivore Sep 11, 2008 15:21:29	Until you realise that you can't put more than 4 skill points into a skill at level 1. No 31 languages for you. Speak Language is handled Differently... notice: SPEAK LANGUAGE (NONE; TRAINED ONLY) Table: Common Languages and Their Alphabets Action: Not applicable. Try Again: Not applicable. There are no Speak Language checks to fail. The Speak Language skill doesn’t work like other skills. Languages work as follows. You start at 1st level knowing one or two languages (based on your race), plus an additional number of languages equal to your starting Intelligence bonus. You can purchase Speak Language just like any other skill, but instead of buying a rank in it, you choose a new language that you can speak. You don’t make Speak Language checks. You either know a language or you don’t. A literate character (anyone but a barbarian who has not spent skill points to become literate) can read and write any language she speaks. Each language has an alphabet, though sometimes several spoken languages share a single alphabet. there is no limit on how many languages you can get... since you Dont buy Ranks in it... you purchase Languages :D
#6 arteyu Sep 11, 2008 15:45:12	31 languages? How many languages are there in the game to select from?
#7 carnivore Sep 11, 2008 15:52:00	there are 20 common languages: Abyssal Aquan Auran Celestial Common Draconic Druidic Dwarven Elven Giant Gnome Goblin Gnoll Halfling Ignan Infernal Orc Sylvan Terran Undercommon then there are additional obscure languages: Drow Sign language Imaskari Ancient Suloise... useful for Suel Arcanamach PrC etc..... then there are Homebrew/DM choice languages :D
#8 carnivore Sep 11, 2008 15:56:00	updated... when i realized i didnt spend all my skill points on Languages.... max total = 71 languages @ 1st lvl :D
#9 altpersona Sep 11, 2008 15:58:05	hmm, 19/20 int race + 3 venerable = int 22ish (+6) scout 8 + 6 x 4= 56 2 feats = 10 2 flaws = 2 feats = 10 isnt that 76? now, if we add a casting of foxes cunning, thanks spell casting services.. we can add another 8.. for 84... i did scout because speak lang is on its list and its 8+ int.. 2 ish from racial lang, 8 from int nd 84 from skills looks like 94 languages.. at what point do you have to start making them up?
#10 tshern Sep 11, 2008 15:58:14	Wow! Now you can add the ancient version of Infernal that only Lords of the Nine use! And Derro sign too.
#11 altpersona Sep 11, 2008 16:01:46	now that i have an idea of the practical limits, its a shame the next game i will be in is 4. otherwise i would do the all languages diplomonster my last Expert had wasted skill points as it was... i should have used em in languages.. drat..
#12 carnivore Sep 11, 2008 16:05:34	hmm, 19/20 int race + 3 venerable = int 22ish (+6) scout 8 + 6 x 4= 56 2 feats = 10 2 flaws = 2 feats = 10 isnt that 76? now, if we add a casting of foxes cunning, thanks spell casting services.. we can add another 8.. for 84... i did scout because speak lang is on its list and its 8+ int.. 2 ish from racial lang, 8 from int nd 84 from skills looks like 94 languages.. at what point do you have to start making them up? good job... but you are only @ 76..... Foxes Cunning does not Add Skill points that you can Spend on Languages if only Rogue had Speak language on its Skill list.... then Changeling Rogue Sub lvl 1 would be great with 10 skill points :D
#13 carnivore Sep 11, 2008 16:07:53	another idea.... Any race Warlock 1 least Invocation: All seeing Eyes..... gain Comprehend Languages total Languages: ALL written :D
#14 altpersona Sep 11, 2008 16:11:24	ya, i reread it... thats - 10 but its still 76 from skill points, 6 from int mod and a couple from race.. looks like at least 83.
#15 carnivore Sep 11, 2008 16:12:27	nice :D
#16 altpersona Sep 11, 2008 16:19:01	now to find an extra 50 odd languages to use em on...
#17 Endarire Sep 11, 2008 19:44:07	I realize comprehend languages allows me to read any written language, but that's beside the point. I'm interested in languages my character knows and can fluently speak, write, and read.
#18 obtusehobbit Sep 11, 2008 23:13:49	if only Rogue had Speak language on its Skill list.... then Changeling Rogue Sub lvl 1 would be great with 10 skill points :D You can do this one of the changeling racial traits is that they add speak language to there class list. Also the illumian from races of destiny also add speak language to there class list
#19 Senevri Sep 12, 2008 1:54:24	...But can you speak Druidic? :P
#20 bauglir Sep 12, 2008 9:09:46	Hellbred. They retain the ability to speak all the languages they spoke in their previous life. Just play a Hellbred who had Polyglot when they were alive.
#21 pithica Sep 12, 2008 11:22:56	Probably not the record, but I once made an NPC Old Sun Elf Rogue with Gift of Tongues from Races of Faerun. That feat makes Speak Language always a class skill, gives you 2 bonus languages at 1st, and (effectively) adds all languages to your 'bonus language' list for languages you actually can select. If you spent all your Rogue skills on Speak Language, it could be a respectable showing. If you took two Flaws and added 2x Open Minded, you're looking at 74 (6 from Int (Base Int 18 + 2 Sun Elf + 2 Old = 22) + 2 from Gift of Tongues + 56 from Skill ranks ((8 + 6)*4 = 56) + 10 from Open Minded = 74) Pretty close, looks like.