Move speeds

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#1

purinadragonchow

Mar 24, 2008 9:31:13
I was thinking of a character concept that involved a bounty hunter type, who would pursue his prey relentlessly. One of the keys to the build was multiple move speeds. The target is on a rooftop? I fly up there. He sails across the lake? I swim after him.

I envisioned this guy being a melee-type, even though I know wild shape would make this concept easier.

So far, I was thinking Dragonborn Aventi (for a fly speed at 6 HD and a swim speed) plus one level of ape totem barbarian (for a climb speed). Possibly going Elemental Warrior (burrow). I really would like to get these move speeds without using spells or items.

I was also thinking of going Horizon Walker later on.

Any suggestions? Assume any WotC material is available.
#2

jetstrike3000

Mar 24, 2008 10:07:36
I grabbed this from another post but it should help


Gaining and Increasing Burrow Speed

Races

* Hengoyaki -badger (OA) (burrow speed 10 ft in animal form and possibly hybrid form)
* Unbodied (XPH) (incorporeal subtype)
* (name coming later) (Sand) (Burrow speed in sand, ash, and other loose soils)


Templates

* Mineral Warrior (burrow speed equal to 1/2 land speed)
* Lycanthrope (MM) (many options)
* Tauric (MM2, SS) (many options)
* Shadow template (MoP, LoM) (all movement modes *1.5)
* Dark template (ToM) (all movement modes +10 feet)
* Ghost (MM) (incorporeal subtype)
* Umbral (LM, SS) (incorporeal subtype, cannot be applied to humanoids)
* Wraith (SS) (incorporeal subtype)


Cheesetastic Templates

* Paragon creature (ELH) (all movement modes *3)
* Psuedonatural (ELH version) (all movement modes *2)


Classes

* Monk (PHB) (+10 feet enhancement bonus to all movement modes/three levels while not wearing armor)
* Scout (CAdv) (+10 feet enhancement bonus to all movement modes every few levels while wearing light or no armor, adds skirmish damage)
* Earth Dreamer (RoS) (grants a burrow speed, don't know how much or when)
* Elemental Savant (CArc) (turns you into an elemental with the earth subtype, I don't remember anything about actually gaining a burrow speed from it though)
* Dragonfire Adept (Dragon Magic)
Quote:
Originally Posted by thestoneyone View Post
Lesser invocation of Humanoid shape allows you to morph into a creature that grants a burrow speed. (Not to mention a fly speed or climb if necessary)
* Mole (Dragon 310, p 71) (20 foot burrow speed, burrow through rock at 1/2 speed, see through thin layer of dirt/stone. In other words, perfect for Moles.)
* Ashworm Dragoon (Sand) (Gains an Ashworm mount and can breathe while underground)


Items
* Burrowing Claws (LoM) (Illithid Graft, grants burrow speed)
Spells (and similar)
* Footsteps of the Divine (CC) (some dieties grant burrow speeds)
* Haste (PHB) (+30ft enhancement bonus to all forms of movement.)
* Lamia Belt soulmeld (Waist Chakra Bind, +10ft to all speeds, grants Spring Attack)

Mounts
* Stone Flyer (Und) (Earth Glide for itself and rider) 12500gp total training
Feats
* Speed of Thought (XPH) (+10ft insight bonus to all speeds)
#3

eepop

Mar 24, 2008 10:50:33
Seriously, WildShape.

You can make a plenty awesome melee wildshaper.

Some options:

UA variant that lets a ranger get some wildshape
Nature's Warrior (Complete Warrior)
Warshaper (also complete war i think, but not sure)
Vow of Poverty (book of exalted deeds) is decent for wildshapers. (and makes it easy to get exalted wild shape).
#4

altpersona

Mar 24, 2008 15:30:09
between wild shape, shapechange, alterself, and incorporeal you should be able to solve any movement issue..
#5

purinadragonchow

Mar 24, 2008 15:32:53
I understand that wildshape would make this easy, but it doesn't fit the character concept I have in my mind. I'm really looking for alternate ways to get these abilities.
#6

vulcanus

Mar 24, 2008 16:07:54
Why bother swimming? Is there a rule that says you can't fly over the water and not wear yourself out and get yourself all wet?
#7

purinadragonchow

Mar 24, 2008 16:13:21
Hypothetically, I can imagine circumstances in which you'd have to go underwater - underground streams with no air, for example.
#8

surreal

Mar 24, 2008 16:24:50
Try the "lists of stuff" link in my sig and look up the section on speeds.
#9

aftercrescent

Mar 24, 2008 16:27:04
What kind of level adjustment are you looking at? A were-dire flying animal Shadow (or Dark) Mineral Warrior Aventi has everything you need and does it quickly...
#10

sinfire_titan

Mar 24, 2008 16:41:06
I grabbed this from another post but it should help


Gaining and Increasing Burrow Speed

Races

* Hengoyaki -badger (OA) (burrow speed 10 ft in animal form and possibly hybrid form)
* Unbodied (XPH) (incorporeal subtype)
* Asherati (Sand) (Burrow speed in sand, ash, and other loose soils)


Templates

* Mineral Warrior (burrow speed equal to 1/2 land speed)
* Lycanthrope (MM) (many options)
* Tauric (MM2, SS) (many options)
* Shadow template (MoP, LoM) (all movement modes *1.5)
* Dark template (ToM) (all movement modes +10 feet)
* Ghost (MM) (incorporeal subtype)
* Umbral (LM, SS) (incorporeal subtype, cannot be applied to humanoids)
* Wraith (SS) (incorporeal subtype)


Cheesetastic Templates

* Paragon creature (ELH) (all movement modes *3)
* Psuedonatural (ELH version) (all movement modes *2)


Classes

* Monk (PHB) (+10 feet enhancement bonus to all movement modes/three levels while not wearing armor)
* Scout (CAdv) (+10 feet enhancement bonus to all movement modes every few levels while wearing light or no armor, adds skirmish damage)
* Earth Dreamer (RoS) (grants a burrow speed, don't know how much or when)
* Elemental Savant (CArc) (turns you into an elemental with the earth subtype, I don't remember anything about actually gaining a burrow speed from it though)
* Dragonfire Adept (Dragon Magic)
Quote:
Originally Posted by thestoneyone View Post
Lesser invocation of Humanoid shape allows you to morph into a creature that grants a burrow speed. (Not to mention a fly speed or climb if necessary)
* Mole (Dragon 310, p 71) (20 foot burrow speed, burrow through rock at 1/2 speed, see through thin layer of dirt/stone. In other words, perfect for Moles.)
* Ashworm Dragoon (Sand) (Gains an Ashworm mount and can breathe while underground)


Items
* Burrowing Claws (LoM) (Illithid Graft, grants burrow speed)
Spells (and similar)
* Footsteps of the Divine (CC) (some dieties grant burrow speeds)
* Haste (PHB) (+30ft enhancement bonus to all forms of movement.)
* Lamia Belt soulmeld (Waist Chakra Bind, +10ft to all speeds, grants Spring Attack)

Mounts
* Stone Flyer (Und) (Earth Glide for itself and rider) 12500gp total training
Feats
* Speed of Thought (XPH) (+10ft insight bonus to all speeds)

Fixed.
#11

purinadragonchow

Mar 24, 2008 17:05:21
What kind of level adjustment are you looking at? A were-dire flying animal Shadow (or Dark) Mineral Warrior Aventi has everything you need and does it quickly...

Actually, I'm still looking at my options. This character won't be a caster, so LA is okay. Although, ideally, I'd rather keep it as low as possible.


Surreal, thank for that. Good stuff. I didn't see Ape Totem Barbarian (UA) listed under climb speed though (but I might have missed it).
#12

Krusk

Mar 24, 2008 17:11:11
Have you looked at the bloodhound prestige class? not all that powerful, but definatly what you are looking for.
#13

stickboy2323

Mar 24, 2008 18:06:06
The Duraak'ash is another bountyhunteresque PrC that gives a few neat abilities but it is Eberron specific.
#14

stickboy2323

Mar 24, 2008 18:06:50
The Duraak'ash is another bounty hunteresque PrC that gives a few neat abilities but it is Eberron specific.