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| #1reality_czechMar 25, 2008 19:55:01 | Hey all- I've looked around trying to find a definitive answer for this, but haven't had any luck so far. My question is simple (I hope). Assuming normal rules for Multiclassing, if any of your classes (After the first, assuming favored class) are more than one level apart you get a 20% exp penalty. My question is this. If I build: Show Conjurer 1 Conjurer 2 Conjurer 3 Conjurer 4 Conjurer 5 Master Specialist 1 Master Specialist 2 Master Specialist 3 Master Specialist 4 Master Specialist 5 Master Specialist 6 Master Specialist 7 Master Specialist 8 Master Specialist 9 Master Specialist 10 Archmage 1 Archmage 2 Archmage 3 Archmage 4 Archmage 5 |
| #2andyjamesMar 25, 2008 19:57:03 | There are no XP penalties for PrCs, so you're safe whether you finish it or not. By the way, you can enter Master Specialist after level 3 (after level 1 if you have use Precocious Apprentice or Improved Sigil Krau) |
| #3reality_czechMar 25, 2008 20:18:21 | Wow, no penalty at all? That's sort of enexpectedly good. Do you know what book I could shove in front of a skeptical Dm to substantiate that? |
| #4andyjamesMar 25, 2008 20:45:06 | It was in the 3.0 DMG, but that line was omitted in the 3.5 DMG. Not surprising, given the shoddy editing of the 3.5 DMG (see the Epic Druid section for what I mean). By the way, I lied. You need to be level 2 wizard to get the skill pre-requisites for Master Specialist. But other than that, you have to be Human with Precocious Apprentice and Spell Focus to get into MS after Wiz 2. |
| #5reality_czechMar 25, 2008 21:24:41 | Thanks for the help. I'm going all the way to wizard 5 because I either want Spontaneous Divination or Domain Granter Power (Magic). I haven't decided. |
| #6banorMar 25, 2008 22:00:33 | Thanks for the help. That a good enough reason ![]() |
| #7phaedrusxyMar 25, 2008 23:02:52 | Wow, no penalty at all? That's sort of enexpectedly good. Do you know what book I could shove in front of a skeptical Dm to substantiate that? As Andy said, it's not actually in a book. They accidently left it out. This was explained either in the FAQ or DMG errata, though. |
| #8NathreetMar 26, 2008 0:00:34 | www.d20srd.org Has the SRD, which are the core rules. Go to classes => prestige classes and it says it there. |
| #9phoenix00Mar 26, 2008 0:13:28 | Here is a direct link Prestige Classes http://www.d20srd.org/srd/prestigeClasses/prestigeClasses.htm |
| #10x-codesMar 26, 2008 0:48:13 | I'm going all the way to wizard 5 because I either want Spontaneous Divination or Domain Granter Power (Magic). I haven't decided. Spontaneous Divination- Awesome. Domain Granted Power (Magic)... why? |
| #11reality_czechMar 26, 2008 10:48:16 | Thanks for the replies guys, very helpful. Magic domain allows use of triggered magic items from prohibited schools, so Focused Specialist stings a lot less. |
| #12tshernMar 26, 2008 10:53:26 | There are no XP penalties for PrCs, so you're safe whether you finish it or not. Your Precocious apprentice tactics is a no go till level 2. Look at the skill requirements. |
| #13andyjamesMar 26, 2008 14:01:06 | Read a bit more. |
| #14x-codesMar 26, 2008 17:20:10 | Your Precocious apprentice tactics is a no go till level 2. Look at the skill requirements. The skill ranks are still 5 and 5, but you need to be human to grab Precocious Apprentice *and* Spell Focus. As for using prohibited spell-trigger/completion items, it sounds nice but it's far too expensive to keep up. |
| #15sinfire_titanMar 26, 2008 17:29:37 | The skill ranks are still 5 and 5, but you need to be human to grab Precocious Apprentice *and* Spell Focus. And he is going FS, so PA doesn't shift when he hits CL 3rd. |
| #16x-codesMar 26, 2008 17:31:28 | And he is going FS, so PA doesn't shift when he hits CL 3rd. I don't see what one has to do with the other. |
| #17sinfire_titanMar 26, 2008 17:39:53 | I don't see what one has to do with the other. The wording on the both of them allows you to cast 2nd level spells, and as such qualify for PrCs despite rulings otherwise. I detail this heavily here. Basically, the trick is you take PA, which grants 1 2nd level spell slot. You then use Focused Specialist to delete that slot, and replace it with two of your specialist school. Due to the wording of the ACF, this works, as losing something isn't using it. This allows a 1st level Wizard to cast 2nd level spells. Also, when you get the ability to cast 2nd level spells, the slot from PA is still missing, so it doesn't shift. This works best for Mystic Theurge or Arcane Hierophant entry, but it is a nice trick to know for other builds. Makes the Wizard just that much more potent, IMO. |
| #18x-codesMar 26, 2008 18:35:03 | Regarless of whether or not it "shifted" you'd get the same result, one extra level-two slot at third level. |