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#1
stolide
Aug 16, 2009 6:38:05 Hey, I'm going to be doing a 19th level gestalt game and I had already decided to do some combination of two of binder, incarnate and factotum. Which do you guys think would be best? I realize there isn't epic level material for the binder, but I'm sure my DM would allow me to write up vestiges in a manner similar to epic level spells at the very least.
#2
wings_of_peace
Aug 16, 2009 7:00:42 Actually if your dm allows web material there is an article on epic level binding. Also, may I recommend taking Totemist instead of Incarnate? It would allow you to create a nasty sort of natural attack build fairly easily. Make it an Elan for natural attack feats and you're golden.
#3
stolide
Aug 16, 2009 7:04:46
Actually if your dm allows web material there is an article on epic level binding. Also, may I recommend taking Totemist instead of Incarnate? It would allow you to create a nasty sort of natural attack build fairly easily. Make it an Elan for natural attack feats and you're golden.

I'm not too fond of melee. :P Yes, totemists are cool, but I wanted to stick two classes I had never played before that looked interesting together. And thanks for the link.
#4
wings_of_peace
Aug 16, 2009 7:20:03 No problem. Hope it helps. Are you trying for all three in a build or are you aiming to use some combination using only those three? I was somewhat unclear on that.
#5
stolide
Aug 16, 2009 8:01:14
No problem. Hope it helps. Are you trying for all three in a build or are you aiming to use some combination using only those three? I was somewhat unclear on that.

Oh sorry, no. I'm trying to decide which two to use.
#6
wings_of_peace
Aug 16, 2009 8:06:50 Is there a particular focus you're envisioning? I know you said you're not too fond of melee.
#7
stolide
Aug 16, 2009 8:18:44 Not really. I don't want to command/make armies, and I don't want to be similar to a specialized diviner. That's about it. I want to have plenty of options, not be too underpowered and I'd rather not focus on melee. I figure combining any of those three classes should do that. A focus will develop as I play the character. That's how it usually works when I play characters like this, especially considering I don't have to pay to get new class abilities for these like a wizard has to pay to reasearch/buy spells.

I'm trying to find out what you guys thing would be the best combination of two out of those three classes.
#8
wings_of_peace
Aug 16, 2009 8:25:54 Personally I'd say go Binder/Incarnate and take either Ancestral Relic or Vow of Poverty. Vow of Poverty will get you a lot of general bonuses and free up most all of your body slots for Chakra Binds. Ancestral relic serves a similar purpose but is for the character who wishes to still be allowed gear. The benefit of Binder/Incarnate is that out of the three they are what I would consider the most flexible in terms of what they can become when you want them to become it. It's hard to give an exact answer for a build in this case because like I said, Binder and Incarnates can fill a lot of different roles depending on what they have up at the time. Combine them in Gestalt and that makes for an immensely variable character.
#9
stolide
Aug 16, 2009 8:28:36
Personally I'd say go Binder/Incarnate and take either Ancestral Relic or Vow of Poverty. Vow of Poverty will get you a lot of general bonuses and free up most all of your body slots for Chakra Binds. Ancestral relic serves a similar purpose but is for the character who wishes to still be allowed gear. The benefit of Binder/Incarnate is that out of the three they are what I would consider the most flexible in terms of what they can become when you want them to become it.

I'm glad someone came to the same conclusion I did. I couldn't help but consider factotum for their 19th level class ability though... It's just so cool. :D

I'd still like to hear the opinions of others, though, so if you see this thread, just give me your opinion.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 stolide Aug 16, 2009 6:38:05	Hey, I'm going to be doing a 19th level gestalt game and I had already decided to do some combination of two of binder, incarnate and factotum. Which do you guys think would be best? I realize there isn't epic level material for the binder, but I'm sure my DM would allow me to write up vestiges in a manner similar to epic level spells at the very least.
#2 wings_of_peace Aug 16, 2009 7:00:42	Actually if your dm allows web material there is an article on epic level binding. Also, may I recommend taking Totemist instead of Incarnate? It would allow you to create a nasty sort of natural attack build fairly easily. Make it an Elan for natural attack feats and you're golden.
#3 stolide Aug 16, 2009 7:04:46	Actually if your dm allows web material there is an article on epic level binding. Also, may I recommend taking Totemist instead of Incarnate? It would allow you to create a nasty sort of natural attack build fairly easily. Make it an Elan for natural attack feats and you're golden. I'm not too fond of melee. :P Yes, totemists are cool, but I wanted to stick two classes I had never played before that looked interesting together. And thanks for the link.
#4 wings_of_peace Aug 16, 2009 7:20:03	No problem. Hope it helps. Are you trying for all three in a build or are you aiming to use some combination using only those three? I was somewhat unclear on that.
#5 stolide Aug 16, 2009 8:01:14	No problem. Hope it helps. Are you trying for all three in a build or are you aiming to use some combination using only those three? I was somewhat unclear on that. Oh sorry, no. I'm trying to decide which two to use.
#6 wings_of_peace Aug 16, 2009 8:06:50	Is there a particular focus you're envisioning? I know you said you're not too fond of melee.
#7 stolide Aug 16, 2009 8:18:44	Not really. I don't want to command/make armies, and I don't want to be similar to a specialized diviner. That's about it. I want to have plenty of options, not be too underpowered and I'd rather not focus on melee. I figure combining any of those three classes should do that. A focus will develop as I play the character. That's how it usually works when I play characters like this, especially considering I don't have to pay to get new class abilities for these like a wizard has to pay to reasearch/buy spells. I'm trying to find out what you guys thing would be the best combination of two out of those three classes.
#8 wings_of_peace Aug 16, 2009 8:25:54	Personally I'd say go Binder/Incarnate and take either Ancestral Relic or Vow of Poverty. Vow of Poverty will get you a lot of general bonuses and free up most all of your body slots for Chakra Binds. Ancestral relic serves a similar purpose but is for the character who wishes to still be allowed gear. The benefit of Binder/Incarnate is that out of the three they are what I would consider the most flexible in terms of what they can become when you want them to become it. It's hard to give an exact answer for a build in this case because like I said, Binder and Incarnates can fill a lot of different roles depending on what they have up at the time. Combine them in Gestalt and that makes for an immensely variable character.
#9 stolide Aug 16, 2009 8:28:36	Personally I'd say go Binder/Incarnate and take either Ancestral Relic or Vow of Poverty. Vow of Poverty will get you a lot of general bonuses and free up most all of your body slots for Chakra Binds. Ancestral relic serves a similar purpose but is for the character who wishes to still be allowed gear. The benefit of Binder/Incarnate is that out of the three they are what I would consider the most flexible in terms of what they can become when you want them to become it. I'm glad someone came to the same conclusion I did. I couldn't help but consider factotum for their 19th level class ability though... It's just so cool. :D I'd still like to hear the opinions of others, though, so if you see this thread, just give me your opinion.