thanks in advance
now i just need to make sure the guy fails his fort save, normally i'd just go for the basic spell focus and greater spell focus, but since i'm playing in an optimized group, i want to be optimized (as far as this char concept will go), and in my experience, the basic way is never the best way.
so yeah, any tips on how to increase the DC, spells casting time, long range control, inter-planar control (if possible), etc. would be very much appreciated
JaronK
There really are quite a few ways to raise the DC (effectively).
Tell us what your party contains and what they can do, and I'll elaborate on your optimal choices. Getting an unbeatable DC is very much possible.
As for the likelihood of successful infections, I’d recommend Dreadful Wrath (PGtF p.38) and Brutal Strike (PHB2 p.76) feats if you are going for a melee dread necromancer.
Raising DC isn't very hard. Just stack Shaken/Sickened/Hexblade's Dark Companion/Paladin of Slaughter's Aura, use Doomspeak, take Snowcasting, Draconic Aura (Energy:Cold), Cold Focus, Greater Cold Focus, 4 levels in Fatespinner, Shadow Weave Magic, etc. Oh, and landing Unluck is a good idea. Heighten Spell + Earth Spell can also help, of course.
yep, not complicated at all!
Fear. Shaken gives a -2 to saves, and your Fear Aura gets that very easily.
JaronK
Jaronk, master of the few yet impressive words.
My favorite thing to do with necrotic cyst is to create a murder of crows that fly above me all the time. When I see an enemy, I send a kamikaze crow (or 2 or 3) at them and cast necrotic eruption. Exploding crows will surely add some flavor to any necromancer build.
As for the likelihood of successful infections, I’d recommend Dreadful Wrath (PGtF p.38) and Brutal Strike (PHB2 p.76) feats if you are going for a melee dread necromancer.
very good witigo but i think you can do better. try cows, much better than crows. (another option would be sheep:D)
i apoligize to all of the peoples i "insulted" quote on quote (cause i insulted you) but also to the people i didn't insult (cause you weren't grazed by my mispelled insults):D
Doesn't the Necrotic Cyst line require Mother Cyst, which requires non-spontaneous casting? Can't recall if Dread Necros are prep or spontaneous though.
I'm reading Mother cyst and I can't find where it says this.
Mother cyst reads:
"You cast these spells like any other spell you can cast, once you host a mother cyst (if you are a caster who prepares spells, you can prepare all necrotic cyst spells without referring to a spellbook, as if you had the Spell Mastery feat for each such spell)."
I believe this line allows for either spontaneous or preparation casting. Its not in the preqs either so I'm confused.
So does your problem.
I say cleric with the Magic and Spell domain, and the Inscribe Rune feat.
Runes are cheap traps, and can be made using Divine spells.
Spell Domain gives access to any arcane spell 5th or lower.
Acquire a copy of Lesser Planar Binding, or Lesser Spirit Binding, set a summoning room, full of Rune traps, and go to town.
Debuff the hell out of them at your leisure, and hit them with the cyst.
Use the horde of low HD minions from your planar bindings to gain loots, buy a scroll of Greater Planar Binding, and go to town.
I recommend getting Spirit Binding for the Incorporeal Undead you can call with it.Very tasty.
One last thing. Get the Shadow Domain for the Shades spell, and cast that, emulating greater planar binding on your self.
I you are not an asimar, use Feindform first, in order to be counted as an outsider.
The result is a Copy of you. Since you are evil, do your self in before it's too late, and encyst that dupe'.One of the few times I would recommend Cooperative Spell.
Say, does an unconscious creature get to resist? I have always heard that they cannot, but I haven't seen the actual rule.
although i definitly won't be able to use it on undead
Nah, the undead are a bonus, easily controlled via rebuking.
I a currently walking around with 1/2 a dozen Ghostly Visages melded with me.
I use them to multiply my Dragons Breath spell.
At CL 14 that makes for 49 d8 acid damage.Every 1d4 rounds.
wow, although i shouldn't be surprised, this is the char opt boards
:D Yeah, and Im a lightweight!
Btw, everything I say should be taken with a bag of salt, since I am addicted to Clerics and undead.
Im actualy trying to play a Binder/Beguiler, and it's hard to deal with a new focus.I will be taking the Mother cyst Feat, so perfect minions will be mine!
Eventually. Im used to minions by 5th a the latest
Say, does an unconscious creature get to resist? I have always heard that they cannot, but I haven't seen the actual rule.
This was also going to be my suggestion: beat something into submission and then you don't have to worry as much about save DCs. It's a little bit trickier to do it without the rest of your party noticing, though.
i plan on being a lawful good control freak cleric, with all good stuff except for the necrotic stuff, i know this rules out many options but it means i can use exalted feats, specifically vow of nonviolence, which not only gives me a +4 to the DC of cyst and tumor (no damage), but gives me a perfect excuse for beating the enemy unconcious, and stops the rest of the party killing my "friends".
i know this is not the best possible outcome, but it does give a nice number of excuses for not killing things, and who am i to argue with them when they want to follow me and take my orders.
so what do u think of my weird combo of LM feats and BOED feats?, and is this char any good?
Naturally Fortitude and Willpower don't just switch off just because you're unconscious.Unconscious characters still get Saves. Even Reflex saves. Something about Reflex being "Luck as well as how well you avoid.".
This is so bizarre. Do dead people (-10 HP or lower) get saves? Aren't they more-or-less equivalent to the unconscious person from a willpower stand point? I can't find where it says unconscious players get saves so do we need to assume that dead players get saves as well?
Unconscious characters still get Saves. Even Reflex saves. Something about Reflex being "Luck as well as how well you avoid.".
Here's the confusing line:
"Some spells restrict you to willing targets only. Declaring yourself as a willing target is something that can be done at any time (even if you’re flat-footed or it isn’t your turn). Unconscious creatures are automatically considered willing, but a character who is conscious but immobile or helpless (such as one who is bound, cowering, grappling, paralyzed, pinned, or stunned) is not automatically willing."
So does that mean that unconscious characters are willing to fail any saving throw, or just saving throws against spells that target the willing?
Nevertheless, it's easier to cast the same spell over and over again on someone who's unconscious rather than, say, trying to move around and stuff.
So does that mean that unconscious characters are willing to fail any saving throw, or just saving throws against spells that target the willing?
Neither. It means you can cast spells on them that specify they only work on "willing targets", like Teleport. If they're not willing, you can't cast those spells on them at all.