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#1 arnwolf666 Sep 10, 2014 23:26:45	I would kill to see some love put into this setting.  Eberron is great, FR kinda bland for me.  Birthright came about towards the end of 2E.  I really think it would be a real colorful setting with cool opportunities for political intrigue and bloody duels.  Something like game of thrones where everyone wants your power.
#2 Kalani Sep 10, 2014 23:44:57	arnwolf666 wrote:
#3 arnwolf666 Sep 10, 2014 23:57:14	I think the key to birthright is to not balance it with the other settings.  Have the bloodline abilities be in addition to the abilities already given.  I just love Divine Right.
#4 DavidArgall Sep 11, 2014 1:25:01	Birthright is a mess of 3 different games, each of which needs work.  Considering that others take less work and have more fans, expect considerable delays.
#5 Arawn76 Sep 11, 2014 2:24:02	DavidArgall wrote:
#6 caridhor Sep 11, 2014 3:02:07	I would consider myself a fan of Birthright ( having multiple copies of some of it and all at least once) but yeah its a mess. it can get out of hand fast and isnt nearly as popular as the other settings despite having some damn fine novels and really awesome source material. I dont think we will get much more than maybe a FR book. Even my beloved Eberron is likely to only live on in DDO. 4th ed (which I love) really only had a handful of books for campaign settings ( even including Neverwinter and Menzoberranzan) but we can dream on.
#7 Luis_Carlos Sep 11, 2014 3:05:57	Birthright is a world where the most of canon D&D creatures don´t fit, it is too "small", but a good writter could use it to create a new "Game of Thrones", if the story was really good.   The future of Birthight is the videogames, and I don´t mean actio-rpg but strategy and economic simulation, managing strongholds and kingdoms.    * Sluagh was a canon fay-undead creature from Cerilia.. wan´t it?
#8 arnwolf666 Sep 11, 2014 3:11:36	It's also about usurping the bloodline of your enemies.  And I mean highlanderespue, you pierce him through the heart and gain his divinity.  Yeah, the strategy is cool, but the stakes can be even higher.  These guys want not only your kingdom, but your divinity.
(Reply to #7) Arawn76	caridhor wrote:
#10 frothsof Sep 11, 2014 4:10:24	I love BR but i am more than happy to keep it 2e. Theres some things u cant improve on. Now Ravenloft on the other hand...yes please. Ps Al-Qadim is in the FR
#11 Arawn76 Sep 11, 2014 4:26:26	frothsof wrote:
#12 Zardnaar Sep 11, 2014 19:13:09	Some settings I always thought would be better as spin off RPGs, Ravenloft and Darksun for example. I love DS but sometimes think it may be better as a skill based system or whatever.
#13 StuleBrown Sep 11, 2014 20:00:00	I loved Birthright when it came out. I ran many games within its setting and had a great time. I would love to see Wizards crank out another Birthright setting but I am afraid that would be just a pipe dream. I hear they are going to focus on the Forgotten Realms as their campaign setting. We can hope though. Never hurts.
#14 Arawn76 Sep 12, 2014 1:25:57	Zardnaar wrote:
#15 Phantymwolf Sep 12, 2014 3:25:28	@Arawn - As much as I love Birthright (and I do, it's the only 2e setting that I have everything for), I have ot burst your bubble. A Song of Ice & Fire (the series that Game of Thrones is based on) came out in 1991. Birthright didn't come out until 1995, so no, they weren't doing it "years before" like you said.
#16 Arawn76 Sep 12, 2014 3:41:50	Wow I did not realize it was that old...fair enough lol
#17 Phantymwolf Sep 12, 2014 3:47:47	Yeah a lot of people think it's more recent than it actually is due to the (well deserved!) craze over the television show, so it's a normal thought-line. As for BR in 5e? i think 5e could handle it. You can tell just by reading htrough the PHB that it is designed for variant rules and story-heavy game design, which BR relies on both. But as others have said, it comes down to popularity. For me Birthright, a revamped and updated (and maybe slightly retconned) Dragonlance, Planescape, and Al-Qadim would be the ones I would love to see done in 5e, but I'm probably wishing for something that won't happen. Oh well, I always have 2e to run those in.
#18 Zardnaar Sep 12, 2014 3:52:35	If you did not get Birthright via the OGL you will probably never get it. I don't think it was ever a very populr setting. I liked it but never got to play it but I remmebr the Iron Throne novel.
#19 Arawn76 Sep 12, 2014 4:18:45	@Phantymwolf: Birthright, Al-Qadim & Dragonlance (yes retconned back to WoTL era) would be my ideal choices, in that order. I could run them in 2e and I've said as much to my group that if 5e doesn't work out that'll be the only edition I'm interested in DMing for. But I have to admit I like buying new shiny things so I still hope for the greatest setting of them all to return lol   @Zardnaar: I've said it before but I honestly feel it suffered from coming out during the death throes of TSR, WotC aren't very adventrous tradtionally (Eberron was a surprise...so was 4e) so they played it safe with the settings they adopted as standard for third. I really like the Iron Throne. The other novels varied in quality a little but were generally a higher standard than you expect from D&D books lol.