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| #1ZardnaarDec 11, 2014 18:11:11 |
From over at ENworld but not all of you post there so here is the link.
http://www.denofgeek.com/books-comics/dungeons-dragons/32990/chris-perkins-interview-dungeons-dragons-the-sundering-and-shared-worlds
Long story short do not hold your breath for Dragonlance. |
| #2LupusRegalisDec 11, 2014 18:34:01 | LOL, of course not. They stole most of Dragonlance's thunder for the Tiamat Arc in Forgotten Realms... |
| #3bawylieDec 11, 2014 19:58:41 | Weirdest part of the whole thing was Perkins' announcing 6th edition. |
| #4LupusRegalisDec 11, 2014 21:11:33 | Was that part of another interview, or am I just missing part of it?
Cause yeah, that'd be kinda awkward... |
| #5ShasarakDec 11, 2014 21:42:43 | That interview was pretty uninformative. It is not as if Chris would be able to tell you much about Drizzt in any case. |
| #6bawylieDec 11, 2014 21:43:32 | No, no, just a dark joke at edition cycle publication & development. |
| #7ZardnaarDec 12, 2014 1:27:39 |
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| #8Sands666Dec 12, 2014 2:02:07 | So I've never really gotten into the Realms much. As the interview states, the history of it all is a bit overwhelming. I do find it interesting though that they talked about how they wanted to change the Realms back to something that held familiar elements to the original way it was. It's interesting because I feel like this parallels what they did with 5th edition: find the core things people liked about D&D and build on that.
I still think that the Realms is too daunting to take on for gamers not familiar with that setting, even though WoTC has tried to make the adventures friendly for all players new and old. I have even heard seasoned DMs say things to the effect that they would not run Realms games because they know there are players out there who are Realms fanatics that would be difficult to have as players. Probably shouldn't detour people, and Realms fans should probably relax I supposed... but haven't we seen the Realms enough?
Why not bring back Mystara, Greyhawk and Dragonlance? I'm a huge Dragonlance fan, and time and again I have been disappointed that they keep bringing back the Realms instead of Dragonlance. |
| #9ZardnaarDec 12, 2014 4:45:30 |
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| #10pukunuiDec 12, 2014 5:06:52 | *Yawn*
Aside from his intimation that Dragonlance won't be on the cards any time soon, it was all just smoke and mirrors. Enough of this "We can't really talk about anything just yet" crap! Show us the money already, Chris! |
| #11Sands666Dec 12, 2014 5:23:26 |
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| #13AaronOfBarbariaDec 12, 2014 10:44:22 |
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| #14EmerikolDec 12, 2014 10:56:47 | You should view any campaign setting you purchase as your world from that moment onward. The basic campaign setting books will give you all you need. If you have a player that can't help himself when it comes to realms lore, you tell them they are on alternate forgotten realms #12.
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| #15cowleymenDec 12, 2014 10:58:07 |
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| #16AaronOfBarbariaDec 12, 2014 12:13:40 |
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| #17LuisCarlos17fDec 12, 2014 12:54:39 | About future crossovers my suggestion is the chronomancer (AD&D class), time dragons and the "time spheres" may be good hooks to create stories about alternative timelines and parallel worlds. |
| #18ankiyavonDec 12, 2014 13:28:27 | I feel like the lack of information was the interviewer's fault at least as much as Chris'.
Most of the questions were some variant on "Tell us this thing about the Forgotten Realms that you didn't write." and Chris says "well, I didn't write it, so here's a fairly generic response". |
| #19SynjinDec 12, 2014 13:38:09 |
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| #21EinlanzerDec 12, 2014 14:04:13 | FR would be the perfect campaign setting if they wouldn't keep shoehorning mediocre quality comic-book style stories and characters into the canon of the core setting. The Time of Troubles all but ruined FR and it's tended to take 1 step forward, 2 steps back since then. |
| #22ShasarakDec 12, 2014 14:37:53 |
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| #23JenksDec 12, 2014 14:48:38 | I really like FR, but I just feel like there's too many things players "expect" to see since it's so established. |
| #24JenksDec 12, 2014 14:48:39 | I really like FR, but I just feel like there's too many things players "expect" to see since it's so established. |
| #25LeugrenDec 12, 2014 14:49:29 | Personally, I think there's something to be said for starting with a clean slate. I'm all for a new campaign setting instead of doing another rehash of an old campaign setting, with all of the baggage it entails. |
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| #27Daydreamer80Dec 12, 2014 15:26:22 | FR is too well established for my taste, and since we like to play by the raw and in the official , its way too much to learn.
Many ppl just adapt it to purpose , our group likes to play as close to raw as possible, so if something is too much to chew, its an issue.
REally i find alot of D&D players are like that, they dont like ignoring major offiical parts of a story or world narrative because its more convient.
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| #28MecheonDec 12, 2014 17:25:31 |
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| #29EmerikolDec 12, 2014 19:24:40 | I think with your hobby having a little OCD does not mean you are OCD about everything in your life or that you have a serious problem. I'm OCD about television shows. I will not watch a show unless I watch it from the beginning and I will not skip an episode. So if I miss a show and the network doesn't put out something on on demand, I quit watching the show. Sometimes if I really love it I'll go on amazon and buy the missing episode. One thing is for sure I won't skip.
When it comes to D&D settings though I would not be OCD at all. Maybe we use the term OCD a bit loosely as gamers. Perhaps claiming OCD is just hyperbole.
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| #30ankiyavonDec 12, 2014 20:48:28 |
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| #33BrianCritchleyDec 12, 2014 21:50:03 |
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| #34Sands666Dec 12, 2014 22:01:15 | I've hear multiple people comment on how Dragonlance has already told the end all be all stories, and have criticized the setting as being out of potential because of this. One of those people was actually Chris Perkins himself. Seeing as he is the campaign bible creator for the current FR adventures, I have a feeling he is also the one with the strongest (or one of the strongest) voice for dictating what worlds they use. That being the case, his opinion about DL being out of potential may very well be the reason we will never see this setting evolve.
The idea that DL is out of potential is ludicrous, to me. The writers are still living and breathing, the fans are still out there talking about it, the elements of potential are all in place. For the fans of Dragonlance, the things they love can easily be reestablished if the writers breath new life into the story. I believe one of the writers even said she would be on board to create new stories for the setting! So what gives? Is it the opinions of a high ranking WoTC memeber? If you can renew something as repleted and burnt out as the Forgotten Realms, there should be absolutely no reason that you could not figure out a way to make Dragonlance, Mystara, or any other under represented setting in D&D renewed as well.
I admit I don't know all of the reasons they stick to FR, I mean who does with as clandestine as WoTC is about information (ie the interview found at the link in this thread). But I do feel that other settings have much potential and I feel FR is too saturated. I don't hate FR, I'm just tired of it being the go to game world personally.
But hey, we can all go to D&D classics and download the old pdfs and create our own additional content to these worlds! Maybe if it's good enough content, we can be considered highly enough to be rejected by WoTC ourselves. ;)
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| #35ZardnaarDec 12, 2014 22:20:58 | DL may just not be that popular these days or the setitng may be played out. I bet they are using the D&Dclassics sales as market research on what people will actually pay for. |
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| #37Sands666Dec 12, 2014 22:34:47 |
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| #38ankiyavonDec 12, 2014 22:36:41 | The biggest problem with Dragonlance is that the timeline between the Second Cataclysm and the War of Souls was complete and total garbage.
The setting lost an utterly massive amount of goodwill as a result of that filth.
That said, to Azzy, DL doesn't have any more real cataclysmic events than FR does. |
| #39Sands666Dec 12, 2014 22:39:53 |
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| #40ZardnaarDec 13, 2014 1:15:38 | Iused to like DL but gave up after the 2nd Cataclysm. FR has really only had 2 RSE Krynn has had about 4. The War of the Lance was the main event and NPCs solved that.
Realms may be overdone but was not wrecked to the same extent except maybe the Spellplague. |
| #41Sands666Dec 13, 2014 1:53:46 |
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| #42ShasarakDec 13, 2014 1:53:54 |
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| #43InaubryynDec 13, 2014 2:22:56 | For me, the draw of Forgotten Realms was the rich tapestry of characters, history, gods, and sense of scale.
For Dark Sun, it was obviously the gritty, deadly world, the god-like Sorcerer Kings and the looming threat of THE DRAGON. Oh! And, cannibalistic haflings.
Ravenloft was an entire setting based on horror. Running Castle Ravenloft back in the day is one of my fondest memories of DnD.
For Eberron, it was its freshness. It's an original world that eschewed a lot of traditional fantasy tropes, flipped them on their heads, and did some genre mashing.
Dragonlance was the setting I played in the least. But, it was my introduction to DnD. I read one of those choose-your-own-adventure books as a kid. I can't recall the title exactly. Something about a crystal dragon, I think. I need to go and look that up. Anyway, that's what really brought me over into fantasy gaming.
That said, each of these settings has their own qualities. But, Forgotten Realms is the largest, most in-depth and currently the most popular of the all. This is why it is loved and hated. And, that's why you see it the most. Kinda like my Dallas Cowboys. ;) I would love to see 5E campaign settings for each of these worlds. But, if they're only going to do one or two, my preferences have already been listed above. |
| #44AaronOfBarbariaDec 13, 2014 14:55:23 |
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| #45LuisCarlos17fDec 14, 2014 6:16:44 | What is your opinion about fictional parallel worlds? The chronomancers were canon in AD&D, with the "time spheres", and the time dragons from the last printed Dragon Magazine. Maybe there is a alternative Krynn timeline where lord Soth avoid the cataclysm, or a green Arthas being invaded by alien spelljammers, or a hollow world (demiplane with prehistoric) being explored by people from Mystara and Greyhawk.
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| #51EmerikolDec 14, 2014 20:53:56 | For me, any good campaign setting has to avoid being tied too tightly to any specific story. So Middle Earth is a poor campaign setting. The story was told.
The reason Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms have stayed popular is that there are no defining stories lines in those worlds. Even Drizzt is just a minor shared world story. A very popular one but he is hardly shaking the foundations of reality. If they had avoided the time of troubles and the spell plague it would have been better yes. To me the spellplague though was far worse than the time of troubles only because of the enormity of the shake up.
When I run a D&D game, I never want my own players story to become THE story of the world. I try to keep the world big enough to encompass many stories. So my PCs stories are like Drizzt novels and not like a LoTR novel. |