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#1 AH_schulerta Aug 19, 2014 13:16:03	In the playtest disengage was at half your movement rate, is that still true? The entry for the action makes no mention of it.
#2 CorwynnMaelstrom Aug 19, 2014 13:21:12	The penalty of disengaging is that it uses your action. You still get your move.
#3 iserith Aug 19, 2014 13:23:49	The upside is that move comes in the form of a stylish moonwalk-esque maneuver with a pelvic thrust at the end of your movement.
#4 Illithidbix Aug 19, 2014 15:47:37	Simple Answer: No. If you spend your action on disengaging then you don't get to do anything else with it, but any movement you take from that point on in your turn doesn't provoke opportunity attacks. (Unless they have the Sentinel feat or a similar special rule!)   Presumably you always choose to disengage before you do any movement on your turn, but in theory you could deliberately provoke an opportunity attack by moving out of an enemy’s reach then use disengage to avoid provoking any more. Perhaps to use up their reaction so they can't opportunity attack a friend instead.   If a rogue used Disengage with their Cunning Action class feature and then used Dash as their main action (or visa versa, it doesn't matter) then they move 2x their Speed, none of which provokes opportunity attacks.   Outdated rules. In the playtest, it it was an action (as it still is) and was phrased: "When you disengage, you move up to half your speed. If you leave a hostile creature’s reach during this movement, you do not provoke an opportunity attack from that creature."   Since you get your move and an action, we read it as “you get an extra movement of half your speed, you don't provoke opportunity attacks during this movement” and you got your normal move on top of this. It's a bit academic now the actual rules are out of course.
#5 AH_schulerta Aug 19, 2014 16:34:06	Why wouldn't a rogue, move, attack, cunning action/disengage? Obstenisbly avoiding all melee attacks on any turn. That would equate to 60' of movement a turn for a medium character and an attack.
(Reply to #5) seti	AH_schulerta wrote:
#7 iserith Aug 19, 2014 16:40:43	It's still only 30 feet as I understand it. Disengage on its own doesn't grant movement - it just allows movement that follows the Disengage action to avoid opportunity attacks. You could Cunning Action (Disengage), move a bit, attack, move the remainder of your speed though. That's pretty useful for stickin' and movin' since no OA's result.
#8 AH_schulerta Aug 19, 2014 18:28:14	Ah, that is where I am messing it up. I thought it was a whole other movement. Thanks.
#9 Noon Aug 19, 2014 19:11:49	Rogue disengage at level 2 is useful if you've got one enemy on you and no allies nearby - you just leave and go attack another enemy who has an ally on them already (since disengage is a bonus action for level 2 rogues)