DM Basic v3 is up

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#1

dave2008

Nov 04, 2014 3:37:25

Did anyone else notice that WotC update D&D Basic again yesterday (11/3/14)?  Just the DM portion, but still updated.  Any idea what changed?

 

here:  http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/basicrules

#2

mellored

Nov 04, 2014 4:57:54

CHANGE LOG

This change log indicates significant updates from the previous version of the D&D Basic Rules.

  • Incorporated two new magic items: Keoughtom’s ointment and cloak of elvenkind. 
#3

Azzy1974

Nov 04, 2014 5:05:35

dave2008 wrote:
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pukunui

Nov 04, 2014 5:50:02

The encounter building guidelines got updated with v2 - unless you're saying they got updated again?

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Azzy1974

pukunui wrote:
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pukunui

Nov 04, 2014 6:06:07

OK cool.

#7

abs1nth

Nov 04, 2014 6:46:58

Cloak of Elvenkind gives disadvantage on perception checks against you AND advantage on your stealth checks?! Anybody else feels like this is WAY overkill. Disadvantage on perception to see you seems like enough to me that way you could still benefit situationally from advantage for stealth. This just feels like "you don't get to see me, like ever" which I can't help but feel would be problematic for game balance (unless you award it at uber high level).

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IxidorRS

Nov 04, 2014 7:19:28

abs1nth wrote:
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TheNovaLord

Nov 04, 2014 7:24:26

well. In a campaign the party may only ever find one such item. I am glad Magic items are ....well....magic and different and mighty.

If the items had a flaw that may be cool too

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IxidorRS

Nov 04, 2014 7:29:17

TheNovaLord wrote:
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Sword_of_Spirit

Nov 04, 2014 9:13:24

Azzy1974 wrote:
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Azzy1974

Sword_of_Spirit wrote:
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pukunui

Nov 04, 2014 14:55:26

Azzy1974 wrote:
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Azzy1974

pukunui wrote:
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Eberronknight

 

IxidorRS wrote:
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Nesian42Ryukaiel

Nov 04, 2014 17:45:20

Not bad, those items.

 

Now, all I need to wait for is the pre-proposed Ancient Red Dragon they said they were going to put in as Basic's top dog, plus at least one monster for each CR.

High level play with Basic is limited to low CR horde killing at the moment...

#17

Miladoon

Nov 04, 2014 20:38:07

I knew it was coming.  The nerf to spell scrolls.

 

Oh well, probably for the better.

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seti

Eberronknight wrote:
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Ramzour

Nov 05, 2014 4:52:41

abs1nth wrote:
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The_White_Sorcerer

Ramzour wrote:
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durntaur

Nov 05, 2014 9:39:24

Yeah, magic items not being ubiquitous, or required for the math to work, feels more organic and special.

 

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The_White_Sorcerer wrote:
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The_White_Sorcerer

durntaur wrote:
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durntaur

Nov 05, 2014 10:01:00

The_White_Sorcerer wrote:
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Timborama

durntaur wrote:
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1eejit

abs1nth wrote:
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mellored

Nov 05, 2014 10:46:10

1eejit wrote:
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Hitdice

Nov 05, 2014 11:00:42

Passive checks get a +/-5 modifier for advantage/disadvantage.

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The_White_Sorcerer

Timborama wrote:
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Sword_of_Spirit

Nov 05, 2014 12:14:18

Without trying to open up the perrenial discussion on hiding...I think the cloak of elvenkind is a pretty good precedent for assuming that being invisible also gives you advantage on Dex (Stealth) and gives others disadvantage on Wis (Perception). I mean, the text explicitly describes the effect of the cloak as visual (not some combination of sensory effects), and if being almost invisible gives you that sort of advantage, I'd think that being actually invisible would have to be at least that good. If we go that route, invisibility is still actually a bit better, because it provides valid hiding conditions also, while the cloak doesn't say it provides hiding conditions--just that you are really good at it if they exist. I'd probably say that you need to stay still and be against a surface or in an appropriate area to get the full benefit of the cloak; you can't just run walk through a field--you have to be Frodo and Sam hiding amongst the boulders.

 

 

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Timborama

The_White_Sorcerer wrote:
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UngeheuerLich

Nov 05, 2014 14:36:12

No. Hidden in this edition is silent and invisible. So you have advatage on dex checks to hide, i.e. becoming unseen and unheard, making other people unaware of your location.

 

the disadvantage on visual perception checks is the same as if you were in dim light, giving no further advantage in that condition.

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Eberronknight

 

seti wrote:
#33

The_Jester

Nov 05, 2014 19:57:20

The magic items are okay, but I'd really like to see the monsters from the two Tyranny of Dragons supplements added.

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Psikerlord

Nov 05, 2014 22:58:03

cloak of elvenkind sounds OP to me - is it a rare or very rare item at least?

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Grazel

Nov 05, 2014 23:50:41

The_Jester wrote:
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Grazel

Nov 05, 2014 23:51:55

Psikerlord wrote:
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Ramzour

Nov 05, 2014 23:57:01

The_White_Sorcerer wrote:
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The_White_Sorcerer

Timborama wrote:
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pukunui

Nov 06, 2014 2:29:33

Ramzour wrote:
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abs1nth

Nov 06, 2014 4:16:16

The_White_Sorcerer wrote:
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Zardnaar

Nov 06, 2014 4:21:43

The cloak is funny with heavy armor. It negates the penalties to hiding but they still suffer disadvanatge to spot you or -5 on passive perception. If it is really important to sneak in heavy armor we use pass without trace or enhance ability (dex) and often guidance as well.

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The_Jester

Nov 06, 2014 6:57:12

Grazel wrote:
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Timborama

Grazel wrote:
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Grazel

Nov 06, 2014 15:49:23

The_Jester wrote:
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Zardnaar

Nov 06, 2014 16:59:04

The_Jester wrote:
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Psikerlord

Nov 06, 2014 20:20:30

Timborama wrote:
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Ramzour

Nov 07, 2014 6:35:12

pukunui wrote: