http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/dmg-release-date
I am okay with the delay. I hope Wizards is taking feedback on the PH and putting some final touches on rules in the DMG.
Just three weeks, eh? That's not too bad. If they need the time, they need the time. I've taken my group through a one-shot to expose them to 5e, and they're looking forward to jumping in, but we have an existing campaign that we want to finish first anyway. I figure we can just extend that a bit longer and have the DMG in hand once we make the full transition. Perhaps DungeonScape will be out and working well by end of year as well.
No problem waiting for polish. And it will still be out for christmass.
More modron love, dig it!
I like this organic approach they are taking (I can wait 3 more weeks), I just want the MM (always my favourite book)!
As sorry as I am to wait another 3 weeks, MM is totally right: 3 weeks now are forgotten sonn after we finally have our hands at the book and the quality is right. And especially if feedback on rules of the PHB are worked in. Clarifying perception/investigation. Some optional downtime rules for plugging holes. Some advise for monsters. Etc. 3 weeks is not a lot of time.
Same here. A little more time to fine-tune it is ok with me!
Glad to hear the DnD Team are taking their time to make sure the DMG is done right.
with consideration to the spell section in PHB they better make it better in DMG.
Quality is more important than promptness.
I'm glad to hear them state this as a policy.
As long as they don't delay the Monster Manual, I don't see myself NEEDING the DMG until the end of the year. Until then, I'll be finishing our last 4E campaign, doing an intro adventure for 5th, then having someone ELSE DM so I can play, and then starting a different campaign after that, using the goodies that the MM can provide until DMG comes out.
Justin Gerard did a great job on the Modron March picture.
What can I say, I won't be satisfied till I'm holding all three of the core books in my greedy little paws, but I'd rather wait the extra three weeks and be satisfied by a better product. 
I'm actually not buying the MM until I get to thoroughly look through the DMG; the DMG is the book that will likely determine whether or not 5e is for me, so there's no point getting the MM until I'm sure.
MechaPilot wrote:
I respect that they want to produce a quality book, but I am disapointed by the delay. I like alot of 5E, but I'm not sold. The rules modules are probbaly the biggest indicator of if I will stick with the system or not.
Hitdice wrote:
MechaPilot wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
It will be well worth waiting an extra three weeks in order to get a better book. Personally, I hope this is an indication of extra 'goodies' of some sort being added (worked in) along with finessing what they already had. 
I have one word for this.
Aliens.
hmn... Whatever. Not like complaining would make the magic happen any faster. I wonder what the issue was?
Hopefully they polished this book up and took care of the binding issues from the PHB release.
The Monodrones look confused without a Duodrone caressing their inner rule-following.
One thing I will say is I am very happy with 5th. I like the concept of Bounded Acuracy and Advantage and Disadvantage. I am very happy with the classes in players Handbook. With the players Handbook out now and the Monster Manual out 19th and 30th. I feel I have about 95 percent of the game. 80 percent PH and 15 from the MM. The remaining 5 is from the Dungeon Master Guide. This is mainly related to getting magic items.
This being said I am curious as to the delay rather than the polish and get it right statement. What were you working on that caused the delay? If I remember correctly Mike Mearls made statement that material for the DMG had to be turned right around when the basic set was coming out July 15th or so. This should have been time to get the DMG out on the 9th or 18th of November. I am guesiing that they may have gone heavier into rules modularity than anticipated. I would rather they say that then polish which makes it sound like they just did not get the work done on time. It just sounds better, and since this is the flag ship of the Rpg department, I would think staff would not go to Cons or vacations untill the books were in the can and to the printers. I know I would not get to go to Cons (which is not vacation for them but marketing) but all the major R&D staff would not need to go to every con if they were that close to missing deadlines. Now my guess and hope is they decided to put in some nice new rules modules such as how to do advanced battle master manuevers that people have asked for on the boards or some other such rules module rather than not getting in the DMG they have had the manuscript done since around late July early August. Saying we delayed the release of a major product due to adding new options requested by fans sounds better than we did not get our work done on time.
ps I am actually happy with the Batle Master Manuevers and how die scales d8 d10 d12.
I don't mind the delay, that preview art is pretty stunning.
my FLGS has early release, so I should be able to pick it up on 11/28.
I can get it early also. Several stores in the area offer early release
Better later over worse sooner! And now I've discovered a new artist I like.
They had to delay it., they're still working on those facing rules...........
Darth_Caffeineus wrote:
Where are they picking up the feedback from?
They better get it right the first time they release it
4e errata habbit really discouraged buying books, Hopefully the new DMG desnt need any errata soon.
I really hope we can get some more magic items previeuw quite soon, the wait is getting quite long. Same goes for a way to create NPC's and ad a CR to them.
They can take all the time they need. Three weeks is nothing.
I'm just glad they took the time to release a statement (and rather far in advance).
They've been quieter on the site lately, so it's nice to have some kind of update.
Wish they could crowd source the book editing to 100 select rules lawyers for a month before they release any books. It would have helped the PHB some.
Three weeks is the duration of a vacation no doubt.
I actually find the delay baffling. I just find it hard to believe that all three books weren't ready and that the staggered release schedule wasn't just a sales/marketing ploy. It's a bit unbelievable that they could actually still be working on the books at this point.
"One of the nice things about releasing the core rulebooks over the course of a few months is that we've had the opportunity to use the feeback from one book to help shape the later ones."
This actually doesn't make much sense to me. Feedback from the PHB should have easily been known through final play tests, folks looking at the initial copies, etc. If there are anything really seriously wrong with it... it isn't like the MM or DMG can fix it. Problems in the PHB pretty much have to be fixed with errata or FAQs. I can't imagine they are sill writing content for the DMG, accepting "What do you want to see in it?" questions, or able to make any serious changes -- both from a time, quality, and testing reasons... plus the fact the core rules are already solidified in the PHB.
It would scare me if they were doing anything with the DMG at this point other than copy-editing. Writing with only a couple of months to go, seems like it would reduce quality (less time for copy-edits, testing, etc. and more issues with layouts, art work, etc.).
I wish them luck on it, but would rather it they weren't still making changes to it as this point.
BW0222 wrote:
Ugh, I'm going to be overseas on business when it hits the streets...
There goes some of my reading material on the plane...
MechaPilot wrote:
While I understand and even agree that a delay to fix an issue or issues is a good thing, I still feel sad as I was looking to have it to read while I was off work. So be it.
Meh, I'm good.
I don't mind the delay that much, as I would rather have a better product.
However, I would prefer an update to the Basic rules sooner rather than later. They could easily add a bunch more content to that, not to mention rules for treasure. We have no idea how much gold to award for each monster defeated. Or things like trap building or non-combat rewards, or skill challenges. Some more pretty basic DM content that is needed to actually run the darn game.
BW0222 wrote: