DnD Classes in Popular Fiction

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#1

Storyteller-Zero

May 07, 2015 16:09:42

Since popular fiction and religious stories have inspired many aspects of classes, races, and magic in Dungeons and Dragons, it might be fun to discuss equivalents and counterparts of DnD classes, races, and magic in non-DnD books, films, TV shows, theatre, mythology, and games.

 

TV, movies, and videogames will probably be the most common sources of inspiration for how younger players perceive classes imo. 

 

Being able to reference these productions could be a good way to help new players visualize the ways that their characters interact with the in-game world.

 

Here's an example:

 

In the movie "Stardust", the main male protagonist Tristan is a commoner who gets trained into a martial fighting class (perhaps a rogue?).

 

The female protagonist Yvaine, a fallen Star, could be classified as a Sorceror who uses the magic of the stars.

 

The villains could be classified as Warlocks, because they gain magical powers by siphoning them from external power sources; the villains seek to drain Yvaine of her sorcerous power to fuel the villain's magical spells and restore their youth.

 

 

#2

Diffan

May 07, 2015 18:09:17
Van Helsing (movie) is roughly the equivalent to a Paladin, going so far as to say that he can sense evil creatures.
#3

Lord_Ventnor

May 07, 2015 20:10:10

Michael Carpenter from The Dresden Files is the best paladin in any story there is. This is an objective fact.

#4

MechaPilot

May 07, 2015 22:10:46

A manga example:

 

Negi Springfield as a spell-point-using wizard.  He learns new spells through study and practice, and has graduated from a formal magic school.  His spells can be interrupted by stopping the incantation (before he learns to cast without incantations, which itself is similar to the 3e metamagic feat Silent Spell). He carries a staff which he frequently focuses his magic through, though he calls it a wand (which is similar to the 4e use of an implement).  Also, anyone can study magic in that world; you don't have to be specially gifted to use magic, which is in line with the tradition of the wizard class from at least 2e through 5e.

#5

lawrencehoy

May 07, 2015 22:41:15

Lord_Ventnor wrote:
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Ralif_Redhammer

May 08, 2015 7:41:47

Paksenarrion, definitely is one of the best paladins of literature.

 

For monks, I’ll go with the Bloodguard from the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. They fight without weapons or armor, and their vow allows them to transcend physical limitations.

 

In videogames, I would think Kratos from the God of War series would count as a barbarian. He even rages.

 

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Kayal

May 08, 2015 9:16:08

Techincally speaking, Roland (of the 12 Peers of Charlemagne) is THE Paladin ... though in D&D, I guess he would actually be a fighter.

#8

Kayal

May 08, 2015 9:18:20

Also, I posit that Gandalf is actually a Bard, not a Wizard. He casts some spells, sure, but he also fighters with a sword, does his fair share of storytelling, and is seriously into the (bardic) lore.

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Artifact

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Brock_Landers

May 08, 2015 10:59:29

Aragorn: Fighter

Boromir: Fighter

Gandalf: Celestial NPC

Gimli: Fighter

Legolas: Fighter

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randl

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OoftaMeg

May 08, 2015 12:13:58

I agree with the best representation of a paladin being Paksennarion, although Michael from the Dresden Files is a close second.

 

However, Gandalf was a fake (in the books).  Yes, he was good at fireworks, but what does he actually do?  All of his accomplisments are off-screen (fighting the balrog) and we just take his word for what happened.  In other cases he's taking credit for other people's work like when the hobbits convinced the treants to take out Saruman and then he claimed it was his idea all along.

 

So Gandalf?  Noble/Politician.  Maybe rogue with a high charisma.  He has connections, influence and a really fast horse but little more.

#13

Brock_Landers

May 08, 2015 12:23:26

OoftaMeg wrote:
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OoftaMeg

Brock_Landers wrote:
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Mechatarrasque

May 08, 2015 12:50:54

For a nonconventional paladin, I like Solomon Kane--he even gets smite in one story (too hard to decide between Paks and Michael Carpenter as the best paladin).

 

As long as we are bringing up Dresden, does anyone notice that he uses 3 spells over and over, gets powered up by a fallen angel, loses that power and gets powered up by an angel, then gets juiced up by Mab.  [Off topic, but that is how magic ought to be in D&D.]  Multipact warlock, which isn't a 5e thing, but was a 4e thing.  

 

 

#16

SirAntoine

May 08, 2015 19:08:52

Captain Picard from Star Trek: the Next Generation would make a fine paladin.

#17

Nist498

May 08, 2015 19:45:01

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Lord_Ventnor

May 08, 2015 20:33:44

Harry Dresden could be represented by a Warlock with the Pact of the Tome in 5e. Wizard or not, his biggest strength in the books tends to be his absolute mastery over ritual magic.

 

And Gandalf would be represented as a Solar who assumes the shape of a bearded man.

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Storyteller-Zero

OoftaMeg wrote:
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arnwolf666

Lord_Ventnor wrote:
#21

Brock_Landers

May 08, 2015 23:55:41

OoftaMeg wrote:
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adembroski11

May 09, 2015 0:04:02

Luke Skywalker is a Paladin

#23

Brock_Landers

May 09, 2015 0:37:08

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strider13x

May 09, 2015 5:25:40

Iron Man: Wizard

 

Thor: Tempest Cleric

 

Captain America: Battlemaster Fighter/Rogue

 

Hulk: Barbarian

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OoftaMeg

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#26

OoftaMeg

May 09, 2015 7:04:49

Roughly half of the standard human comic book heroes: monk

 

 

#27

SirAntoine

May 09, 2015 17:35:44

Nist498 wrote:
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arnwolf666

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#29

Lord_Ventnor

May 10, 2015 0:33:52

Chewbacca is a miniature giant space sasquatch.

#30

cowleymen

May 10, 2015 14:41:40

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#31

Ralif_Redhammer

May 11, 2015 7:51:23

Good call on Solomon Kane!

 

Hiero from Hiero’s Journey is perhaps literature’s only multiclass psion/ranger/cleric.

 

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#32

Kayal

May 11, 2015 10:58:27

arnwolf666 wrote:
#33

Orethalion

May 11, 2015 11:17:39

lawrencehoy wrote:
#34

Orethalion

May 11, 2015 11:21:11

OoftaMeg wrote:
#35

Ralif_Redhammer

May 11, 2015 11:31:40

One of the great things about the Sparhawk character was how he was clearly a holy warrior, a paladin. Yet he was also very human. It really opened my eyes to how a paladin could be more than a one-note Lawful Good PC, while still being a Lawful Good PC, if that makes any sense.

 

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#36

Orethalion

May 11, 2015 11:41:01

Ralif_Redhammer wrote: