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| #1JohnLynchJan 27, 2015 23:07:44 | I know playing changelings is quite a popular option in Eberron and that Ed Greenwood has made regular use of doppelgangers in his Forgotten Realms campaigns. I personally made a place place for them in my own homebrew setting and I've finally gotten around to statting them up. I'm following the 4th ed line of thought in that changeling is just another name for a doppelganger.
Changeling Racial TraitsChangelings have the following racial traits. Ability Score Increase. Your Charisma increases by 2 and your Intelligence increases by 1.
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I balanced the race around the variant human, seeing shapechanger as equitable to a feat.
So where's the read thoughts ability that the CR 3 doppelganger has? In my view that's way too overpowered for a PC race. So why does the MM doppelganger get it if PC changelings don't? I'd assume the MM doppelganger has some levels in an NPC-only class that grants psionic abilities. In my view not all doppelgangers need to have read thoughts, just as not all orcs are born with a greataxe in their hand. |
| #2LuisCarlos17fJan 28, 2015 7:54:28 | My suggestion is to mixture the racial parangon classes from 3.5 "Unearthed Arcane" and the doppelganger monster class from "Races of destiny".
The first level PC is a changelling normal, but she could get levels of "doppelganger class". |
| #3Devils-AdvocateJan 28, 2015 10:52:27 | Seems pretty balanced. Personally I'd go for +1 DEX over +1 INT, since their favored class was Rogue in 3E and in 4E they got a bonus to DEX and CHA.
I don't like Darkvision on Changelings, because like you said, they've never had it before. But it sounds like a "must have" for you, so I'll leave it at that.
I like shapechanger, but I don't think the clause about people familiar with the character you're impersonating getting advantage is necessary. In fact, I would have the feature grant the Changeling Advantage on Charisma (Deception) rolls to pass as their assumed identity. This would replace Silver Tongue in my own version.
I agree on the second language, and might even say a third is in order, since this race is pretty feature-light. Alternatively, maybe grant Proficiency with the Disguise Kit, or a greater stat boost.
EDIT: Here's my take.
Changeling Ability Score Adjustment. Your Charisma score increases by 2 and your Dexterity score increases by 1. Changeling Resilience. You have advantage on Wisdom saves to avoid being charmed or put to sleep. Changeling Skill Training. You are proficient in the Deception and Insight skills. Natural Linguist. The gold and time you must spend to learn a new language is halved, and you do not require an instructor. Shapechanger. You can use your action to change your appearance to that of any other medium sized humanoid race, of any gender. While your appearance is altered in this way, you have advantage on all Charisma (Deception) checks to pass as a member of the race you are impersonating. If you attempt to impersonate a specific individual, you do not gain this advantage on checks made to imitate their voice and mannerisms. Languages. You can speak, read, and write Common and your choice of one other language. |
| #4setiJan 28, 2015 11:40:33 | I really like it. It's succint, fits the idea of the race, and I agree with the OP on darkvision.
I am torn between a +1 to INT or a +1 to DEX, though. (+2 CHA is a no-brainer.) Maybe give it +1 to INT or DEX?
Great job though. Lots of posters/DMs/rule crafters often make stuff too complicated (myself included). You nailed it down, kept it simple, and balanced to what we know is core.
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| (Reply to #2)JohnLynch | Thanks for the feedback guys.
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| #7rampantJan 29, 2015 9:45:29 | Actually having darkvision would make it harder for them to pass as races without it. A lot of how we interact with the world is based on our senses afterall.
Too bad lowlight vision doesn't ssemm to be a thing anymore. |
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| #10Devils-AdvocateJan 29, 2015 18:58:37 |
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| #12Devils-AdvocateFeb 02, 2015 23:10:04 | Well, the version in Unearthed Arcana: Eberron is almost identical to yours. Nicely done. |
| #13JohnLynchFeb 02, 2015 23:15:12 | Thanks. I'll be interested to see what the final form looks like. As I mentioned in the other thread I still want darkvision (this is largely so I can use it as a doppelganger PC race). I'm using the official version as the changeling race and my version above as a doppelganger race (although I've removed the two bonus languages. Darkvision seems on par for 2 extra languages). |
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