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#1 Plaguescarred1 Sep 12, 2014 3:47:23	Thursday: Time For Transparency DungeonScape  By trapdoor Technologies   Hello Everyone, There have been many questions about the nature of the project and this post is designed to pull the curtain back a bit and reveal what exactly is happening.   Talk about this article here.
#2 Thank_Dog Sep 12, 2014 4:04:09	What I can say is that we have at least 100 testers in the iOS beta currently that can attest to DungeonScape’s existence.
#3 1eejit Sep 12, 2014 4:25:11	I'm surprised they lead with iOS over the web app, which could work on all platforms.
#4 BoldItalic Sep 12, 2014 4:36:31	They've added Disqus for blog comments - seems to work quite well if you sign up for it.
#5 Shasarak Sep 12, 2014 4:55:52	On one hand I am very pleased to see a purchase to own model (rather then the previous purchase to rent model)   On the other hand what are the chances that they want to charge full book retail for it?
(Reply to #4) seti	BoldItalic wrote:
#7 Atheosis Sep 12, 2014 5:20:47	iOS first?  That is baffling...
#8 Phobos Sep 12, 2014 5:48:39	NVM, found what I was looking for.
#9 TDarien Sep 12, 2014 10:09:54	Thank_Dog wrote:
#10 blake_marlowe Sep 12, 2014 15:33:31	this particular blog entry was very helpful thanks!
(Reply to #7) noaharkwv	Atheosis wrote:
#12 Thank_Dog Sep 12, 2014 20:20:30	noaharkwv wrote:
#13 Gnarl Sep 12, 2014 20:22:07	noaharkwv wrote:
(Reply to #13) noaharkwv	Gnarl wrote:
#15 Undrhil Sep 13, 2014 1:07:02	I'm confused how someone can be more comfortable writing apps for iOS and not for the Web, which has been around for *longer* than iOS *and* has a much larger target audiance.
#16 Uchawi Sep 13, 2014 5:55:51	Dedicating resources to iOS is a huge disappointment, but kudos for Apple fans. But more important choosing an indepedent application platform that can be used for mobile and desktop would appear to be the preferred development path.
#17 Xenogears Sep 15, 2014 0:18:51	So tell me why this app wasn't ready when 5ed droped.
#18 Psikerlord Sep 15, 2014 0:37:13	hmm alas I dont do apple. Guess I wont be using it then anytime soon.
#19 Arawn76 Sep 15, 2014 1:29:53	I have to say I'm stunned WotC went and made the same mistake they did for 4e and not have this ready out of the gate...or at least with a set release date if they wanted all three core books out first
(Reply to #19) Thank_Dog	Arawn76 wrote:
#21 thespaceinvader Sep 15, 2014 1:48:19	Xenogears wrote:
#22 Arawn76 Sep 15, 2014 3:03:05	Thank_Dog wrote:
#23 Thank_Dog Sep 15, 2014 3:52:14	Arawn76 wrote:
#24 Arawn76 Sep 15, 2014 4:37:35	Thank_Dog wrote:
#25 Xenogears Sep 15, 2014 20:05:43	Lets be as clear as we can get someone not pointing fingers droped the ball on this. The app should have in development right alongside the PHB there is no excuse. For it to just now go into beta the product should be getting it's first patches and updates.
#26 Gnarl Sep 15, 2014 20:34:58	Undrhil wrote:
#27 Shasarak Sep 15, 2014 20:41:05	Thank_Dog wrote:
#28 Thank_Dog Sep 15, 2014 21:24:23	Shasarak wrote:
#29 Shasarak Sep 15, 2014 22:33:36	Thank_Dog wrote:
#30 Dracones Sep 15, 2014 23:02:56	They got in over their head and are playing catch up. Pretty common for smaller companies.
#31 Undrhil Sep 15, 2014 23:23:50	The eTools from Codemonkeys for 3.x was a very good program.  Kind of bloaty, but I blame that on the technology of the time for the programming.   I think they should get those guys back to make the new tools.  Or get the guys at Hero Lab to work on it.  Heck, I already have a subscription of Hero Lab for 4e.  I'd be more than happy to buy an official 5e package on there as well.
#32 Thank_Dog Sep 15, 2014 23:27:12	Undrhil wrote:
#33 Arawn76 Sep 16, 2014 1:23:01	AD&D Core Rules CD was a great product for its time and I'd personally be happy with something in that vein.   The more complicated they make something the more problems they seem to have.
#34 Shasarak Sep 16, 2014 2:02:27	Arawn76 wrote:
#35 spelley Sep 16, 2014 6:01:39	Xenogears wrote:
#36 Foxface Sep 16, 2014 9:48:29	Shasarak wrote:
(Reply to #31) trebor_rjf	Undrhil wrote:
#38 Dracones Sep 16, 2014 11:24:19	Lone Wolf Dev(the Hero Lab guys) are a .NET company so they're not really qualified to do a cross platform app. Plus I'm pretty sure they're really swamped working on their Realm Works application. I know they were several months back when WoTC was probably shopping around. I wouldn't be at all surprised if WoTC did talk to them but it didn't work out due to requirements and workload.   With Trapdoor it just really sounds like they don't have a ton of experience and that bit them in the ass with the time deadlines. Commiting to an Android app without an Android dev on staff bit them in the ass and it sounds like they re-invented some wheels with the UI auth and cloud functions rather than just picking something like Qt for the UI and working around S3 for storage. And stuff like auth probably had some WoTC requirements(work with our website) which probably threw a lot of wrenches in the works.   But the app so far looks pretty decent. It'll be slow to come out, but it'll get there.
#39 Shasarak Sep 16, 2014 12:21:28	Foxface wrote:
#40 spelley Sep 16, 2014 12:26:50	Shasarak wrote:
#41 Thank_Dog Sep 16, 2014 15:02:39	spelley wrote:
#42 Shasarak Sep 16, 2014 16:32:32	Well how much of an idiot Thank_Dog really is does not change the fact that we need to see the finished product before complaining about it.   One positive is that this is much more information then we usually get.
#43 MrHotter Sep 16, 2014 16:37:24	I'm not sure why people were expecting to get a companion program based on the published books at the same time as the published books.    It was already tough enough for Kobold Press to release adventures for a game that had monster and rules changes all the way up to where they had to send it to a publisher.    I'm looking forward to the release and hope to get some time in the beta before it goes live to see if I want to buy it.
#44 Undrhil Sep 16, 2014 20:31:14	Well, at this point, I hope they are working on web/android if and when I get into the beta since I don't use an Apple product.
#45 MrHotter Sep 19, 2014 5:36:10	I'm suprised this was not mentioned on the boards yet (that I've seen)   The beta is about to start.   It's first sign up, first invite, so I'm glad I signed up on the first day.