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#1 XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek Aug 23, 2014 16:28:24	This is my personal analysis on the game and why I think it's still just "meh".   There is nothing that really blows me away about Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition. It looks like high level play will finally be done right for a change because I don't always like crazy things going on in high level play, but I think everything is else is just "meh", feels like they played it safe this time.   I see things they could of done with this edition but didn't, spell components for one. I still think Pathfinder is the best game for levels 1-10 while 5th edition has done a good job at the higher levels. My leveling in Pathfinder is extremely slow so levels 1-10 are more like 1-20. I don't allow everything there is so the broken combos don't happen in my games. If certain options are restricted to certain regions, deities, or even certain people, then they don't make it into my games unless these things are in it.   I'm feeling like there is too much magic in 5th edition, like they are trying to solve any problems by making most of the classes have magic. I'm not crazy about the layout of the PHB. I would rather each spell had the class name or names it is associated with. Also, is it just me or do all the wee folk resemble "bobbleheads"? I feel like the system needs a bit more options without going overboard.   I'm still pouring over the PHB so I will continue to post anything else i come across.
#2 Lawolf Aug 23, 2014 18:24:15	High level play looks just as bad as it always did. Wish, teleport, reverse gravity, forcecage, contagion, wall of force, polymorph, etc all still exist. The game is still the wacky wizard show it always is at high levels.    I do agree that overall the game feels "meh". Nothing has really "wowed" me.
#3 thecasualoblivion Aug 23, 2014 18:31:53	XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek wrote:
(Reply to #2) CCS	Lawolf wrote:
#5 Noon Aug 23, 2014 18:50:33	Anti jading spell.
#6 Bud_the_CHUD Aug 23, 2014 19:46:06	CCS wrote:
#7 Rastapopoulos Aug 23, 2014 19:53:41	CCS wrote:
(Reply to #6) Inaubryyn	Bud_the_CHUD wrote:
#9 JohnLynch Aug 23, 2014 20:05:14	I can't DM Pathfinder for a long duration because the rules are so complex that I don't know what I should and shouldn't ban. A common tactic in Pathfinder among my players was to attract all the enemies and fight them at once and just massacre them. This time my players attracted all the enemies but almost lost to them. 4th ed was great at low level, but combats dragged on above level 8. Problems creeped in at the same level range but for different reasons. 5th edition so far is turning out awesome. Combats are predictably challenging. No-one seems overpowered yet, but it's early days yet. Combat options are limited but the DMG will fix that. My players keep asking about facing and it's a rule I always felt was missing from D&D. Rastapopulous wrote:
#10 Zardnaar Aug 23, 2014 22:04:12	I suspect this game will have a sweet spot. Level 1 and 2 are two hard/short in duration, high level looks to easy and will likely be boring. I at elast want to try some things out some more, PHB will get here tuesday or wednesday, I get to play LMoP on Tuesday as well and I am crafting a new campaign world for a game next Thursday and Sunday hopefully.
#11 Psikerlord Aug 24, 2014 0:47:13	Martials are excellent in this edition. So are most casters. The weakest class in my opinion is sorceror in fact. Just doesnt inspire me at all. All the other classes do.
#12 masterfat78 Aug 24, 2014 1:31:54	....Was this thread really needed. We have known your opinion about 5th all throughout the playtest. As far as Im concerned this edition is better than adnd in all waysexcept maybe multiclassing. It gots some old school flavor mixed with the modern editions that has become my kinda drink. And for once it looks like high level play might get used in my campaigns.
#13 frothsof Aug 24, 2014 5:17:45	Im glad u dont like it Xun, but something tells me you're still gonna hang around here anyway
#14 Mistwell Aug 24, 2014 5:52:22	frothsof wrote:
#15 Brock_Landers Aug 24, 2014 6:10:07	For me, so far, it's a sort of like the 3rd Ed I wanted back in August 2000.   The ease of conversion of pre-4th Ed material is a big seller.
#16 thecasualoblivion Aug 24, 2014 7:07:04	Psikerlord wrote:
#17 smacintush Aug 24, 2014 7:10:00	Some people are so insecure that they feel the need to "convince" everyone agree with them.
(Reply to #14) XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek	Mistwell wrote:
#19 JohnLynch Aug 24, 2014 7:11:07	thecasualoblivion wrote:
(Reply to #17) XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek	smacintush wrote:
(Reply to #19) XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek	JohnLynch wrote:
#22 Rhenny Aug 24, 2014 7:18:49	thecasualoblivion wrote:
#23 thecasualoblivion Aug 24, 2014 7:30:24	JohnLynch wrote:
#24 Mistwell Aug 24, 2014 7:48:46	XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek wrote:
#25 thecasualoblivion Aug 24, 2014 7:52:14	Mistwell wrote:
(Reply to #20) smacintush	XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek wrote:
#27 JohnLynch Aug 24, 2014 8:30:01	thecasualoblivion wrote:
(Reply to #24) XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek	Mistwell wrote:
#29 Mistwell Aug 24, 2014 9:23:27	thecasualoblivion wrote:
#30 thecasualoblivion Aug 24, 2014 9:30:44	Mistwell wrote:
#31 Mistwell Aug 24, 2014 9:32:03	XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek wrote:
#32 JohnLynch Aug 24, 2014 9:36:40	casualoblivion wrote:
#33 VeroMaestro Aug 24, 2014 9:38:41	XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek wrote:
#34 Brock_Landers Aug 24, 2014 10:00:40	JohnLynch wrote:
#35 thecasualoblivion Aug 24, 2014 10:04:54	Brock_Landers wrote:
#36 Brock_Landers Aug 24, 2014 10:18:22	thecasualoblivion wrote:
#37 thecasualoblivion Aug 24, 2014 10:20:08	Brock_Landers wrote:
(Reply to #35) XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek	thecasualoblivion wrote:
#39 thecasualoblivion Aug 24, 2014 10:21:14	XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek wrote:
(Reply to #39) XunValDorl_of_HouseKilsek	thecasualoblivion wrote:
#41 Brock_Landers Aug 24, 2014 10:26:41	thecasualoblivion wrote:
#42 Dragonette Aug 24, 2014 10:31:09	Hello folks,   This thread has become flame/baity, so I'll be locking it. Please do not make a duplicate.   Thanks,   Monica