[Generic rant about a certain type of player, with insinuation that said type of player is ruining D&D.]
If people would just play the game right, we wouldn't have these problems.
Edit: Sorry, I meant to say "you people."
What we see on the forums is only the tip of the iceberg. There are people out there, playing D&D all wrong and having badwrongfun and wilfully bending the rules and they're doing it in secret. All right-minded people would be shocked by this if it ever became public. I know I would.
We need a return to the 1E/2E rules for firing into melee. Get rid of concentration checks. Sneak Attack should only work at melee. That's my rant. I feel better now. Oh yeah, return the clashes to the initiative system.
You are all wrong, completely out of your mind. It is !(type of players) who are ruining D&D!
[Insert snarky comment designed to make me look cool and be funny, which just falls flat.]
AlHazred wrote:
[Spammed sales pitch to convince you that you too can earn a vast fortune working from you home in your spare time.]
[Appeal for sanity which is completely ignored and immediately buried under a flood of ireful replies to an earlier post.]
[Long rant about some particular interpretation of a specific rule and insist that my interpretation of said rule is the one true interpretation and that anyone who disagrees with me is a big doo-doo-head.]
EDIT: Cross-post said rant across multiple threads, constantly checking to see if anyone has replied. Repeat exactly the same argument until thread has exceeded hundreds of posts and only 3 people even post to the thread any more.
[Request for help in withdrawing a rediculous amount of money from a bank in Nigeria... just send the poster all your bank and credit card account numbers and associated pin numbers and passwords. (what could go wrong?)]
[Here's where the thread devolves into pedantry and passive agressive insults]
[grab popcorn and lament that some kernels burnt]
Oh wait, should I admit that 
Chaosmancer wrote:
feartheminotaur wrote:
The sort of people that post on message boards are what is ruining this game!
Damage on a Miss!
Hit Points = Meat!
Save or Die!
at this point I'd rather discuss Politics and Religion.
[Inserts reference about this whole thread is exactly something Hitler would say]
strider13x wrote:
AaronOfBarbaria wrote:
[Applauds usefulness of thread and praises posters for their positive attitude]
BoldItalic wrote:
[neutral, somewhat informative drivel, with subtle attempts at humor, accidently posted before searching for the best emoticon] [edit: :emoticon:]
-[with redundant two letter initial signature]
As usual, you’re all wrong. All we need to do is to kill everyone who is playing wrong, which means everyone.
(Just to be clear: it’s a joke. I wonder if someone will take this seriously).
Pedantic post at best tangentially related to the conversation.
cassi_brazuca wrote:
[Wall of text containing multiple embedded quotes from people who are obviously continuing a private argument from some other thread]
[extended discussion of small, offhand comment in a previous post... completely derailing the thread]
[totally takes the bait, biting on the troll derailment to drag everything further down the rabbit hole]
You know who's the worst though? Bawylie. He thinks he owns this place and leads this gang of trolls who respond to subjective assertions with opinions of their own. Screw that guy.
Agreed.
[Desperate attempt to remain relevant to the discussion, culminating in the sad realization that nobody even notices I exist.]
[EDIT: Self-aggrandizing passive-aggressive apology for coming across as self-aggrandizing and passive-aggressive.]
Huh... apparently if you write the word 'EDIT' in your post, the board marks it as edited even when it isn't...
[Declares that 'we' a homogonus unnamed group of Forumites and DnD'ers have successfully killed DoaM, and that opposition to my views should suck it.]
You know who else is the worst? Orethalion! With his constant civil disagreement with my obvs true opinions. The maybe 10% of issues we disagree on prove he's ruining D&D.
And don't even get me started on Iserith and his short-form scenarios and transcripts of actual play. It's Dungeons and Dragons not Seahorses & Scenarios!
[Post that makes you question whether the poster is trolling, has English as a third language, or mistook a bowl of peyote buttons for brown M&Ms]
DemoMonkey wrote:
ChrisCarlson wrote:
[peacocks around the forum WRT the epic rant thread recently made in his honor...]
[Derail the thread, usually a comment about how one edition did something better than another suffices regardless of the original topic.]
[insists on using obscure-3rd-listed-definitions of commonly used terms to paint detractors as ignorant]
bawylie wrote:
[Use anecdotal evidence from gameplay experiences to justify the OP's beliefs; responds to detractor's of OP with an exhaustive, ten-paragraph long rhetorical analysis of their general sentiments, ending the analysis by suggesting that my interpretation is superior because I'v read Vincent Baker and Ron Edward's work on game theory. Include links to both game maker's pages to try to strengthen the illusion that my argument is not an opinion but verifiable by sources.]
Mommy_was_an_Orc wrote:
fepriest wrote:
[Uses the word "fallacy". Boom! Mic drop.]
[Picks up mic. Taps it to make sure it's still on. Informs audience of the "fallacy fallacy" phenomenon rampant on this forum, in an effort to discredit the previous fallacy claim.]
ChrisCarlson wrote:
[Attempts to prove point by arguing succesful sales figures.
Argument then becomes about what sales figure represents "successful". Water turns to blood.
Argument then becomes about what source material is used for "sales" anyways. Plague of Frogs begins.
Argument then becomes about the accuracy of online review and if indicating people buying product means they thinks it is good. Lice and flies fill thread.
Argument then becomes about the value of commerce vs art. Livestock keel over dead, all posters begin to boil.
Argument then becomes about tradition vs innovation. Hail and fire rain from the sky; moderators awake from their slumber in sunken Ry'leh.
The word "Edition" is used openly. The appearance of locusts surprise no one.
The accusations of "Edition Warrior" and "Fanboy apologist" fly. The thread darkens in anticipation of...
All sides involved begin shouting about "One True Wayism". Dogs and cats now live together. The great non-euclidean shapes of the Moderators sweep through the thread and slay every first post.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.]
AaronOfBarbaria wrote:
[decries how some players insist on roleplaying sandwiches to an extreme, including funny voices and saying ketchup as catsup]
[cyberdave epic takedown]
[Asks: why do all threads degenerate into this kind of invective? Tells everyone to grow up and take games where we pretend to be elves in magic castles seriously like adults.]
[Ragequits again]
[New post - and first in thread by this author - replies directly to OP, without saying so, and ignores everything else in thread.]
[watches in horror as some new poster necros the thread and an additional 100 ranting posts are born from the corpse]
ChrisCarlson wrote:
Attempts to prove point by arguing succesful sales figures.
[Pops into thread just to comment on how hilarious everything is found.]
Varden_Khol wrote:
[Rant about how a balanced class is over/underpowered and needs to be severely buffed/nerfed]
My goodness, BI, that had to have taken some effort to so masterfully mock.
[grumblingly agrees]
[mutters about how much better -9001e was]
Matau99 wrote:
ChrisCarlson wrote:
[Refuse to agree to anyone's statement no matter how logical and sound, and in doing so, paint my own argument into an increasingly rediculous and contrived mockery of itself.]
[once-every-six months spurt of activity before receding into obscurity]
[observes that this thread has run its course and advocates starting another one where the same arguments will be repeated without bothering to refer back to this one where they have all been aired already]
Bob.
Zardnaar wrote:
[pops in after thread has finally died down and arguing has finally subsided and asks everyone why can't we all just get along. re-ignites arguments causing them to be re-hashed over and over again]
DemoMonkey wrote:
[Demands to know when this thread will be available online as a free PDF download]
[Claims to have extensive market experience and predicts that thread will be a commericial failure otherwise]
[Launches a kickstarter to convert thread to PDF. Funding target is $8.3M]
[Kickstarter reaches 0.000003% of target in the first month]
[Predictions of commercial failure thereby vindicated]
[Start umpteenth thread about digital tools]
[Participate in thread about digital tools]
[Puts on my robe and wizard hat.]
Synjin wrote:
[Spend as much time as it would take to create an adventure complaining about how WotC doesn't put out enough adventures and and doesn't have the time to create their own adventures.]
Ouch
ChrisCarlson wrote:
[YELLS in ALL CAPS cuz EMPHASIS!]
[Mocks forum's meta-awareness of its own ridiculousness]
[Apologizes for saying something rediculous earlier due to lack of sleep, intoxication and not having any of the books available at the moment.]
[Makes statement about the rules of a former edition of the game, claims them as truth and also declares them terrible rules - provides no source reference, didn't check facts, and is in fact incorrect as to what the rules were.]
[Later replies to someone correcting the misquote of former edition rules in such a way that suggests true belief that are a jerk for daring to illustrate my completely deliberate, even if laziness-caused, spreading of misinformation, coupled with an insistance that the house-rules my group used back in the day were identical to the house rules that everyone else was using at the time and claim that such untrue statement would actually validate my earlier misquote of the rules if it were true]
[Still a %$@!#& tool]
People using a photo of themselves as an avatar.
[reports poster for disagreeing with debatable assertion and offering supporting facts. Cites harassment].
[brings up entirely unrelated point about how class X is horribly broken and unplayable, spiraling thread into a completely unrelated debate for an extra 5 pages]
Uses the words obfuscate and binary.
Gunthar wrote:
Brock_Landers wrote:
People that are not into 5th Ed, and passively attack it, that loiter around here.
BoldItalic wrote:
[Warlords]
[Not Warlords]
[Hit Points]
[Hit Points, but the specific subset of hit point topics in which it is inaccurately insisted that the definition of hit points provided by the game book has ever changed]
[Defends bravely Healing Surges even without any relation to the thread itself.]
[Then uses the term “Meat Point” pejoratively.]
[Then start talking about how bad Vancian is.]
[And then start to praise how good Old-School style was.]
[By the end, start talking about how I’ll leave D&D and go play Mage: The Ascension, even if this game has nothing to do with the current discussion.]
[Comes back for D&D five months later, but there’re no splat books, so back to WoD.]
42
[Finally gets fed up with lurking and pleads with all in the name of community and friendship. Includes smiley emoticon for emphasis.]
[Spam]
[Semi-relevant point in response to a topic that the thread has since moved on from, with no quotebox to provide context.]
[post moderated for trolling]
[Obligatory post proving my point by using bold italicized font. Demands others recognize this now as fact.]
[Makes reference to thread on Enworld that covers the same topic, but without all the flame and vitriol, as proof that greater minds are at work somewhere in the universe, but as it turns out the Enworld thread is composed of many of the same posters as this thread, but almost all from one side of the argument.]
[Notices that there are more than 100 posts to this thread. Whine about the thread that never ends and insists that no one cares any more.]
[Complains about the thread, then says that he can't believe the thread is still going and should be closed, because he personally doesn't like the thread]
[Doesn't play 5E. Constantly posts about 5E as if they did.]
((Yeah, you all know who I mean. LOL))
Synjin wrote:
[complains that someone started this thread when there is already a thread covering similar topics]
[complains every time someone performs "thread necromancy" by making a new post in a thread that hasn't seen activity in more than two weeks]
[Complains that this thread has become full of complaints, instead of offering constructive criticism.]
Touc wrote:
[Presents oneself as praising 5th Ed, but is in fact part of a thinly veiled assault on it.]
Again, we know who they are, ha.
[Strawman]
[Oberoni]
[Stormwind]
[Makes a bunch of posts in a row]
[Everything must be homogenous between magic & non-magic types]
[First!]
[Claims that all classes are overpowered. Presents statistics to 4 decimal places, with Kolmogorov-Smirnov tests of significance to prove it.]
BoldItalic wrote:
[Post that I couldn't be bothered to read the entire thread, did read the OP, and could someone please summerize the rest for me.]
ChrisCarlson wrote:
[trolls under main account, having forgotten to sign in as alt]
Wuzzard wrote:
BoldItalic wrote:
Brock_Landers wrote:
[Chris Carlson]
I kid! I kid!
[Request for definition of jargon or acronym that is well-known to the community but inscrutible to newcomers or people who go off the grid for months at a time]
Ranthalan wrote:
ChrisCarlson wrote:
[odd interjection aimed at someone else, due to wanting to establish dominance]
BoldItalic wrote:
[Random spambot with a suspicious looking link stating how I make $30,000 an hour working from home just by surfing the web the way I already do.]
[Random Individual uses Google's "I'm feeling lucky" and is delivered to OP. Peruses thread to this point:
DemoMonkey wrote:
Ranthalan wrote:
Wuzzard wrote:
[Post from an English-as-a-distant-second-language spambot which has some keywords in common with OP rant.]
*...stares all steely...Dan...*
[strawman refuted instead explains thatt it is actually a man made out of straw and therefore far superior and infallible]
[20 minute free-form jazz exploration in front of a festival crowd.]
[Posts a year later, asking if there have been any updates?]
[Reply to highly inflammatory post from a week ago, using personal at-the-table anecdotes as proof for own position.]
[Continuation of previous post; interruption due to need to buy more gasoline to throw on fire.]
[claim that I've had enough of this topic and am bowing out, only to return on the next page fully engaged because someone mentioned my name.]
[smarmy ambiguous accusatory post ending with "you know who you are."]
["Knows it's him" but is affraid to reply because it will call him out as being the one "who knows who it is".]
[proposes a 2 game solution]
[Assumes that "you know who you are" is a reference to existentialism and makes long rambling post about the putative influence of Jean Paul Satre on the genre fiction of the Forgotten Realms, whilst rubbishing deconstructive positivism. Includes bibliography.]
[pretends to support a 2 game solution to the "can't we call get along crowd", only to recant at the first opportunity and insist there can never be a 2 game solution when speaking to the one-true-gamists.]
bawylie wrote:
[Openly mocks subsequent posters for misunderstanding what the first poster clearly meant by "2 game solution". Obliviously get's it wrong himself.]
[Takes exception to being mocked]
[Demands satisfaction: swords at 20 paces.]
[Finally tears down poster who had received accolades earlier, by dragging him down to own level. Wins.]
[Sulks and plots revenge]
[Pyric victory!]
[calls out mocking poster for his one-true-meanist ways]
DemoMonkey wrote:
ChrisCarlson wrote:
[is pwned 
]
[...but then springs trap, posting Merriam-Webster online dictionary definition]
pyric
adjective \ˈpīrik, ˈpir-\
Definition of PYRIC
: resulting from, induced by, or associated with burning <a pyric ecological climax>
[Defuses weak trap with ease]
[Scornfully points out that the use of an upper-case 'P' in the original post clearly indicated that the poster had intended the word to be a proper name, i.e, "Pyrrhic" and could not have intended it to be the adjective "pyric".]
[Ignites conflict between believers in "Rants As Written" and believers in "Rants As Intended"]
[Sheepishly tries to point out that sentances are generally started with a capital letter...]
[while hoping no one notices that many of his previous posts did not start with a capital letter...]
[Trounces excuse by pointing out that "Pyric victory!" (sic) is not a sentence at all, since it lacks a verb, but is a noun phrase, a mere interjection.]
[Claims victory and establishes reputation as insufferable pedant.]
[Thread? Isn't this the line for the washroom?]
Lord_Ventnor, I'm really happy for you. I'mma let you finish your thread, but Beyonce had one of the best rant threads of all time! One of the best rant threads OF ALL TIME!!
(Posts a comment that gets deleted for C&C violations.)
bawylie wrote:
bawylie wrote:
[Posts comment wondering where deleted post went. Upon finding the reason (C&C violation) begins rant about the unfair, anti-free speech moderation, and how worthless WotC is as a result.]
[Comes back to find previous, perfectly legitimate posts, were blindly modded away because some axe-grinder went back and flagged everything they could find out of petty, impotent rage. Proceeds to make totally moddable post in retaliation.]
[Posts: "See my PM." without saying who it is addressed to, or what it is about.]
See my PM.
[Makes second post, after a few minutes.]
I think we should bring this out into the open, don't you? There are bigger issues at stake.
[Makes third post, after half an hour.]
Thank you for expressing your views so forcefully. Have a nice day.
[Never explains who it was with, or what the issue was.]
[Asks where the non-WotC product forums are]
[three years later resurrects thread with a simple +1 comment. Leaves everyone else confused]
Ranthalan wrote:
[Random question about which class feature would be best to take at level 4 for a fighter with a background in glass blowing. At end of post, mentions it's for 3rd edition.]
[ninja'ed]
ChrisCarlson wrote:
I just need to say: I’m playing GURPS now, so I have no reason to look into a WoD forum like this one, but I still am visiting this forum because of this thread about Pathfinder.
Well, wish me good luck on Numenera.
Edit: Sorry, the 1st phrase was a typo, got confused in my writtings.
[Posts about inclusiveness.]
[Modules! MODULES!!]
[After spending so much money on books from previous D&D editions (enough to have a library), complains about having to spend more money on a new edition. Then proceeds to pay for books for a similar but different game (such as Pathfinder.)]
[Sees rant topic getting lots of replies. Goes and creates new rant thread with slightly different subject line.]
[bumps the thread on the basis that no one told him where the forums for non-WotC products are]
[Well-reasoned rebuttal, but using only examples of questionable relevance from non-D&D RPGs.]
Dougan_Axehammer wrote:
[Posts just to move the thread count closer to 1000]
[Posts again just to get the thread count closer to 1000]
[reposts same post from a few pages back because nobody took the bait.]
Seriously, people, we should fix this thread in the first page, and everyone should read from time to time.
[posts a philosophical article of high minded game theory in response to another article posted which reaches the opposite conclusion, both articles are only tangentially related to the original point]
[posts rebuttal to articles without reading either of them]
[Quotes the OP and decides that, as always, it's people that are the problem. Advocates that D&D should be rewritten in C++ and only computers should be allowed to play it, between themselves. To save arguments.]
[Thinks this could easily be implemented in the new Sword Coast game, by eliminating the player and DM interfaces and letting the NPCs take over entirely.]
[Creates AI thinkbot called Bald IT Alec to post semi-intelligent random answers on these forums.]
[No-one notices the difference.]
[Posts completely uninteresting comment that nobody is interested in with no discussion value and completely kills discussion. Nobody comments again for weeks.]
[vehemantly argues that computers are so antithetical to D&D that it shouldn't even be discussed over the internet]
Mommy_was_an_Orc wrote:
[Angry diatribe about GMs who don't allow laptops/tablets and smartphones at the game table even though I've never played with one.]
[Posts about something "back in the day". Is only 17]
[Still thinks cheese-mage can't solo the Tarrasque. Decides to undermine this thread so it can't near the epicness.]
[notes that if tarrasque can be killed by cheese mage, then the tarrasque sucks hard, but if the tarrasque sucks hard enough it can simple inhale that pesky cheese mage; problem solved.]
[Is on a D&D board. Cites Batman as example. Starts epic nerd-war.]
[Posts fanart mashup of tarrasque and Kirby. Preemptively defends Wii U's virtues as a gaming console.]
Synjin wrote:
Orethalion wrote:
[Aquaman]
[confuses Marvel super hero with DC super hero, lets the bloodbath begin]
Kazadvorn wrote:
[Mac vs. PC]
[XBox vs. PS]
[Console vs. PC]
[Glock vs. 1911]
[Watches the internet assplode as if divided by zero]
[frantic attempt to 're-rail' the discussion before it's locked by mods]
Synjin wrote:
Kazadvorn wrote:
[quotes the OP and comments "I agree entirely"]
[Post is reported for being off-topic.]
[Reports OP for being off-topic. OP is deleted, leaving everyone wondering what the thread is about.]
BoldItalic wrote:
Dougan_Axehammer wrote:
BRJN wrote:
[Derails entire thread with "Superman is best".]
BRJN wrote:
BoldItalic wrote:
Orethalion wrote:
I hope the game designer will read this.The is the worst version on magic ever created for DnD.When the hell someone decided that bard and cleric could have same spell level as mage or sorcerer.Having cleric fighter or rogue casting firebolt cantrip seem so stupid and illogic that i would never dm with such system.And wizard seem so underpowered comapared to cleric and sorcerer wich can apply their charisma bonus to spell dammage unlike mage that are under level 10 and chose evocation specialist.And why would the maximum amount of spell be reduce that much after 2 level.This seems so cheap and nerfed.I think whith the cantrip system, pure caster class are lost their flavor,who would play a mage or even a sorcerer if they do the exact same thing as a cleric for example.Im happy with everything in 5h edition exept for what i said.
Klied wrote:
[takes obvious joke post very seriously, gets offended and starts lashing out as if had been attacked personally]
[Attempts to defray impending flame war by harking back to a point raised on page 2 which nobody noticed at the time and nobody notices now.]
[Cites term in post. Causes argument. C&Ps dictionary definition of said term. Only fuels the fire.]
[Otherwise pointless bump to get the thread back onto the front page, with a thin veneer of relevance edited in after the fact.]
Orethalion wrote:
[Derails thread and loses any hope of having actual content of post discussed by using an absolute terms such as "always" or "never".
This happens 100% of the time.]
Synjin wrote:
Is this thread canon ?
BoldItalic wrote:
ChrisCarlson wrote:
Dougan_Axehammer wrote:
BRJN wrote:
BoldItalic wrote:
[Returns to thread that I started weeks ago to type up some inflammatory typo-ridden drivel responding to posts which were also made several years ago, only to promptly disappear again.]
Seven pages. Of nothing.
Makes me miss the Tarrasque thread.
[Complains about meta-threading]
[Argues that evil NPCs are entitled to have fun "because it's what their character would do" even though it makes the PCs unhappy. Poses question: if a DM allows NPCs to enjoy being evil, is the DM evil himself? Answers own question. Declares that this proves that D&D is evil. Starts ranting that D&D should be banned.] 
[Takes moral stance and posts picture of empty bookshelf where D&D books used to be.]
[Repeats same rant ad nauseam. Puts up a succession of own strawmans and demolishes them, thus "proving" own case is unassailable.]
BoldItalic wrote:
[Moves goalposts.
Moves them further.
Thinks maybe they looked nicer in the first spot and moves them back.
Considers whether new drapes would make the goalposts look nicer where they are.
Decides to reupholster the field and get some new accent throw pillows and ...wait, what was the discussion about?]
Satyrn wrote:
[ Stands by his statement. ]
BoldItalic wrote:
[Tries to post about inclusiveness. Uses term considered derogatory.]
cassi_brazuca wrote:
cassi_brazuca wrote:
BRJN wrote:
[Begins writing a post about inclusiveness and then deletes it for fear of being misunderstood due to being the wrong race, gender, sexual orientation, nationality, and shoe size to be advocating inclusiveness.]
[makes a post championing inclusiveness by listing several types of players who should be excluded from playing D&D because they aren't inclusive ENOUGH]
[Uses a comedy thread to grind social axes and refight old grudges.
Is rightfully fish-slapped and sent to bed without dice for being a downer.]
{Posts angry rant, supposedly on behalf of bigots everywhere, demanding that anti-inclusionists be not only tolerated but welcomed under the umbrella of inclusiveness.]
[Argues that refusal to tolerate and embrace intolerance is itself a form of intolerance and should be denigrated.]
[Predicts total failure of everything if demands aren't satisfied.]
[Is transparently obviously trying to stir up a backlash.]
[Is denounced as a troll.]
[Demands equal rights for trolls.]
[Posts angry rant about random topic. Accidentally hits submit button twice.]
[Posts angry rant about random topic. Accidentally hits submit button twice.]
Kazadvorn wrote:
[Pillages, then burns.]
[Brand-new individual on forums ( < 20 posts total) locates the few helpful or constructive posts in the thread, upbraids authors because "they don't know the rules and can't play D&D"]
BRJN wrote:
[reply to OP, states that WotC is ruining D&D by creating rulesets which that sort of player can enjoy. Snide (and non-factual) analysis of WotC's financial history. Claims that RPs could be a viable business field, if only that sort of customer could be detected beforehand, driven away, and prevented from returning.]
BoldItalic wrote:
Mommy_was_an_Orc wrote:
[gets into meta bracket argument with other meta bracket posters over unintended slight or misguided humor in previous meta bracket comment.]
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BoldItalic wrote:
BoldItalic wrote:
Mommy_was_an_Orc wrote:
BoldItalic wrote:
Lord_Ventnor wrote:
[Interprets a particular game mechanic in context of an unstated previous edition as though it still worked the same way.]
[Complains about lack of 5E product, thereby showing they can't make good use of existing material, which is enough to last years with a good imagination]
ChrisTheS wrote:
Synjin wrote:
[Spends a good deal of time and creativity explaining that he doesn't have the time or creativity to generate homebrew material. Mentions that being able to spend more time and money on more new material would alleviate his problem.]
BoldItalic wrote:
BRJN wrote:
[Posts several paragraph rant on newly discovered 'broken' combo]
[Verbally- er, literarily- assaults everyone who points out that combo is either not broken, or broken in the sense that it simply does not work]
BRJN wrote:
Lord_Ventnor wrote:
FarBeyondC wrote:
[Complains frequently that digital tools are not supported and the game is unplayable without them.]
[Greets announcement that digital tools are now supported with tirade against digital tools and complains that they make the game unplayable.]
[complaint that no thread as helpful and information-filled as this one is, should be allowed to die from neglect]
FarBeyondC wrote:
Mommy_was_an_Orc wrote:
Lord_Ventnor wrote: